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Change of working location
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There are no redundant roles, as the work appears from what the OP states to be moving to the other site and all the staff moving with it ... therefore there is no redundancy
Is it a reasonable plan for peopel to travel to the new Site , many employers would argue and i think the courts would agree that Nottingham to Derby is a reasonable commute
the next question is -is there any reason by virtue of a EA2010 Protected Characteristic ( primarily Disability) why the OP's Brother cannot learn to drive a car / ride a motorcycle ... if the answer to that is no then unfortunately by refusing to move with the company to the new site he is effectively resigning.
Mobility clause is a red herring here , mobility clauses are more usual aobut short term moves to fulfill the needs of the needs i.e. they need a forkie/ trainer / fire marshal / first aid at Site B for a few days / weeks so they ask someone from Site A where they have sufficient to spare one ...1 -
There is no Redudnancy as the job still exists at the new / other site , which is arguably within a reasonable commuting distancetheoretica said:Seems like he wants to investigate constructive dismissal and whether he thinks it worth bringing a claim as the new site is unreasonable for him.
I really think in the absence of a Protected Characteristic which has direct impact on getting to the other site ( i.e. DIsability meaning that someone cannot drive ) that the chances of a COnstructive dismissal or claim that this is a redundancy situation would be very hard to sustain
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there is no redundancy , as it's likely that any court would consider the move to be a reasonable distance , it's not like they are moving to a site in Manchester or Durham or Stevenage ...thebrexitunicorn said:If he is still with the employer at the time his depot closes this could well be a redundancy situation. His old role will no longer exist and for the reasons given, the alternative (new location) is not suitable.In his position I would be looking for alternative employment now. However, if I hadn’t found anything by the time of the move I would be pursuing a redundancy payment.0 -
I think you are at a cross purpose as to what the mobility clause is there for. It's absence doesn't protect someone from being moved if the Operating conditions of the company are such that they move the sites ...magpies79 said:
Well this was what the lady was saying on the phone from what he told me on the phone.thebrexitunicorn said:
What is reasonable will vary depending on individual circumstances.Savvy_Sue said:
I don't see redundancy here. The job still exists. The new location is not unreasonably far away. Childcare and travel arrangements are not the employer's concern.thebrexitunicorn said:If he is still with the employer at the time his depot closes this could well be a redundancy situation. His old role will no longer exist and for the reasons given, the alternative (new location) is not suitable.In his position I would be looking for alternative employment now. However, if I hadn’t found anything by the time of the move I would be pursuing a redundancy payment.
Is there any wraparound care at the school / nursery?
But I'd be looking for another job.If the contract specifies the current location as the only place of work then childcare and transport can certainly be relevant if they are the reasons that the new location isn’t suitable for the employee.The role is not only the tasks it’s also the location (and hours of work), assuming the information about the contract is correct.A chat with an employment law solicitor, with all the information put to them, might be a good investment.
he works along side 5 other people who all do the same duties 3 have contacts that state can be requested to work at any other depot within 1.5 hrs travelling distance.
my brother and one other person contacts states Nottingham only and both have worked there around 14 years the other 3 people varies between 3-6 years they have worked for the company.
those who have the clause could be told any way , regardless of the site closure - " the business needs you to got and work at the other site for the next 2 weeks " ...
a job i've had had a base sit, i could be sent to any other site within 25 miles as a routine part of my duties and could be asked to travel to sites that were further away ...
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