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Shepherd's Friendly 5 year fixed bond

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  • Scrounger
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    Equivalent interest rate works out at 4.354%   (or 5.443% if liable to BR tax) due to the non-annual compounding.

    Scrounger
  • 1socrates1
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    I think I will buy into VUAG etf instead. Because I am willing to tie the money up longer term and will accrue compound interest. 
  • artyboy
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    edited 5 July 2024 at 2:34PM
    To me, this actually looks like a very attractive product for anyone paying tax on their savings and looking for capital protection over the mid term. Especially with the likely reduction in interest rates to come...

    If there was a monthly income version of this, I suspect they would be swamped with applications.
  • masonic
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    artyboy said:
    To me, this actually looks like a very attractive product for anyone paying tax on their savings and looking for capital protection over the mid term. Especially with the likely reduction in interest rates to come...

    If there was a monthly income version of this, I suspect they would be swamped with applications.
    It would beat investing in an equivalent gilt, assuming of course you don't die before it matures. The other risk is that inflation returns. The latter is why I wouldn't lock away at a fixed rate for this long.
  • masonic
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    edited 5 July 2024 at 4:35PM
    I think I will buy into VUAG etf instead. Because I am willing to tie the money up longer term and will accrue compound interest. 
    You won't get any interest on VUAG. You'll get a mixture of capital gain (or loss) and dividend, which is compounded. But it is a more appropriate long term investment if you have the risk tolerance (there is a huge difference in risk between that and the fixed bond). But why opt for a single stock market?
  • dunstonh
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    I think I will buy into VUAG etf instead. Because I am willing to tie the money up longer term and will accrue compound interest. 
    Thats a bit of a leap from the plan you were looking at.  

    That fund gives you the US equity exposure but what about the risk of the portfolio?  i.e. where is your UK, Europe, Asia etc.    Hopefully, you were not doing something daft like putting it all in that one fund with no others?
    I am an Independent Financial Adviser (IFA). The comments I make are just my opinion and are for discussion purposes only. They are not financial advice and you should not treat them as such. If you feel an area discussed may be relevant to you, then please seek advice from an Independent Financial Adviser local to you.
  • nottsphil
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    edited 9 July 2024 at 10:20PM
    Oh well back to the drawing board. 
    But why?
    That Close Brothers one isn't compounded because the interest is paid into your bank account annually. That means you are free to put it back into savings and earn more interest, which is what compounding actually does!
  • drphila
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    nottsphil said:
    Oh well back to the drawing board. 
    But why?
    That Close Brothers one isn't compounded because the interest is paid into your bank account annually. That means you are free to put it back into savings and earn more interest, which is what compounding actually does!

    Yes, but it's likely to be a lower rate
  • nottsphil
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    drphila said:
    nottsphil said:
    Oh well back to the drawing board. 
    But why?
    That Close Brothers one isn't compounded because the interest is paid into your bank account annually. That means you are free to put it back into savings and earn more interest, which is what compounding actually does!

    Yes, but it's likely to be a lower rate.
    But that's not the reason the OP rejected it. Don't know how to multi quote but s/he wrote 

    'I think I will go with another bank that offers a little less interest but is compounded like Close Brothers at 4.57 % for 5 years.'

    The reason for the rejection was that the interest was paid away annually instead of being compounded!
  • drphila
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    nottsphil said:
    drphila said:
    nottsphil said:
    Oh well back to the drawing board. 
    But why?
    That Close Brothers one isn't compounded because the interest is paid into your bank account annually. That means you are free to put it back into savings and earn more interest, which is what compounding actually does!

    Yes, but it's likely to be a lower rate.
    But that's not the reason the OP rejected it. Don't know how to multi quote but s/he wrote 

    'I think I will go with another bank that offers a little less interest but is compounded like Close Brothers at 4.57 % for 5 years.'

    The reason for the rejection was that the interest was paid away annually instead of being compounded!

    Fair point
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