Council parking ticket , no observation period

1990xrider

Coupon-mad said:

That plus the lack of kerb blips and lack of observation time will win an appeal in the end because the Council won't want it going to adjudication.

He went down there today, and got new pictures. The one sign is facing away from where traffic entering the road (it's a one way) and is literally below door handle level for a car 

Coupon-mad

And it is impossible to tell whether the obliterated circle on that sign is supposed to be saying 'no waiting' or 'no loading'

1990xrider

Ok I made an appeal on his behalf appealing on the grounds of 

- insufficient /unclear signage - one solitary sign below driver level facing away from the direction traffic would enter the dead end road. 

- unclear on the sign whether it forbids loading, stopping or parking 

- no kerb blips 

- no observation period contrary to BPA guidelines and standard council practise 

Le_Kirk

Coupon-mad said:

And it is impossible to tell whether the obliterated circle on that sign is supposed to be saying 'no waiting' or 'no loading'

I think it means No Bow Ties at any time! [I'll get me coat]

1990xrider

So the council replied. 

They're saying that there are no requirement for signs on yellow lines, and that the sign pictured should assumed to be taken to mena no stopping at any time . They say they did not observe my brother unloading and there is no requirement for them to wait . 

1990xrider

It's a bit cheeky..but he was stopped to unload a Subway 6 inch sub from a nearby Subway branch and load his vehicle from it. I believe he may have a bank statement for this transaction. How strict are the criteria for loading /unloading as in what it is you're meant to load? It could be an interesting test case. The letter says the CEO did not observe my brother unloading, but they effectively issued an on the spot fine so how could they determine this 

Umkomaas

What are Free Traffic Legal Advice forum advising you? 

https://www.ftla.uk/civil-penalty-charge-notices-(councils-tfl-and-so-on)/