BBC UC article

HillStreetBlues

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3ggglkepjpo
I know BBC does tend to omit and not fact check stuff but in this case would there be no entitlement to UC?

Spoonie_Turtle

Depends.  A quick calculation says there probably should be if she has LCWRA and they included the carer element, but he could have savings over £16,000 or enough over £6,000 to wipe out any remaining entitlement after his salary.

fatbelly

She does not seem to understand that, as an adult, she does not form a 'household' when she lives in her parents (or anyone else's) house but when she moves in with her boyfriend, she does.

And it's no use the BBC using this as a reason to look at the Parties' benefit proposals as none of them are going to change that.

HillStreetBlues

Spoonie_Turtle said:

Depends.  A quick calculation says there probably should be if she has LCWRA and they included the carer element, but he could have savings over £16,000 or enough over £6,000 to wipe out any remaining entitlement after his salary.

That was my thinking.
I do wish they actually bothered to fact check and give a correct response.

She receives a £405.40 Personal Independence Payment (PIP) per month and £809.64 in universal credit every four weeks.

I suppose that sums up how the BBC is only interested in the headline without doing any research of their own.

HillStreetBlues

fatbelly said:

She does not seem to understand that, as an adult, she does not form a 'household' when she lives in her parents (or anyone else's) house but when she moves in with her boyfriend, she does.

And it's no use the BBC using this as a reason to look at the Parties' benefit proposals as none of them are going to change that.

I do think it's concerning for disabled people with the direction of travel. Apart from it being rubber stamped  we are clearly going to have a Labour Government

Labour want to work with local areas to create plans to support more disabled people and those with health conditions into work. They will devolve funding so local areas can shape a joined-up work, health, and skills offer for local people. While they pledge to tackle a backlog of Access to Work claims, they do not say anything about benefits such as PIP

It's seems the only welfare policy Labour currently have (and can expect that to be introduced from next week) is to make more disabled people work.

sammyjammy

More disabled people (not all) can work but the employment needs to be supported, properly supported with employers and a less harsh end result if things don't work out for them.  Get mental health help in some kind of fit for a first world country state and that would give many the confidence to go to work and it would be good for them.

Muttleythefrog

As above... article could be better.... for fact checking... it also omits the plan of the Conservatives to save £12Bn on benefits with PIP the main target and it incorrectly refers to how they would achieve it (by returning to pre pandemic levels of PIP is their aim). 

As above... it's a rather pointless article since I don't think any party intends to change what constitutes a household for U/C purposes and I'm not aware more broadly of any great campaign for such. I'm also not convinced they'd be worse off together... I think that unsurprisingly many sick and disabled people want to cling on to benefits they've fought to get awarded and keep... and especially if it has given them some independence they fear losing or face relying on a partner to support. 

HillStreetBlues

Muttleythefrog said:

As above... article could be better.... for fact checking... it also omits the plan of the Conservatives to save £12Bn on benefits with PIP the main target and it incorrectly refers to how they would achieve it (by returning to pre pandemic levels of PIP is their aim).

Agree, as the current Government it should also look at what they have already said not just the extra bits in the manifesto.

Muttleythefrog said:

As above... it's a rather pointless article since I don't think any party intends to change what constitutes a household for U/C purposes and I'm not aware more broadly of any great campaign for such. I'm also not convinced they'd be worse off together... I think that unsurprisingly many sick and disabled people want to cling on to benefits they've fought to get awarded and keep... and especially if it has given them some independence they fear losing or face relying on a partner to support. 

Agree, it's certainly not going to change the only thing that has changed is the term LTAMAW.

I expect most disabled people don't want change as I can't see any change benefits more people than it hurts. There might be small gains for some people, it will be the ones that cost the least some they can also claim to be helping people.