"Excluding bank holidays" meaning?

EnPointe

the tradition has been that  annual leave is quoted in 'days' , days being  the normal  working day length  

the reality  is that  annual leave is calculated in hours   ( 5.6  * hours  in One FTE)  

unless  EVERYONE in a business  works  a different amount of hours ina normal working day AND  the hours in the working week reflect that   it;s likely that Bank Holidays will be calculated on the basis of 7.5 hours  for each of the 8  bank holidays 

where the number of days  in the  (at least ) 4 weeks of ordinary annual leave are likely to be quoted based on the normal working pattern for the role  ... 

ranid96

Hi guys, in case anyone was wondering, turns out the employer just happens to be a generous one. It's 29 days with bank holidays on top. Result!

Exodi

Andy_L said:

its an odd choice of phrasing. you'd normally expect
x days leave plus bank holidays (possibly saying how many BH days there are) or
x days leave including BHs

using "excluding BHs" has just confused the issue. 

I don't think it's odd.

From experience, it's easier telling employees they have X number of days holiday (that they understand that they can choose when to take) than saying "you have 37 days holiday, but technically 8 of those are already pre-allocated for you, so you actually have 29 days holiday you can choose".

Saying to the OP they have 29 days holiday excluding bank holidays is simple to understand. Unless there is something in his contract suggesting the company works bank holidays, I'd put money on the fact they have 29 days + bank holidays off.

It's also not ideal putting the specific number of bank holidays in a contract, considering the king would have broken such a contract last year with the extra bank holiday.

I think people are getting caught up in semantics between 'excluding' and 'plus' when the intention is nearly always the same.

EDIT: sorry I didn't see OP posted and confirmed it to be the case.

Andy_L

Exodi said:

Andy_L said:

its an odd choice of phrasing. you'd normally expect
x days leave plus bank holidays (possibly saying how many BH days there are) or
x days leave including BHs

using "excluding BHs" has just confused the issue. 

I don't think it's odd.

From experience, it's easier telling employees they have X number of days holiday (that they understand that they can choose when to take) than saying "you have 37 days holiday, but technically 8 of those are already pre-allocated for you, so you actually have 29 days holiday you can choose".

Saying to the OP they have 29 days holiday excluding bank holidays is simple to understand. Unless there is something in his contract suggesting the company works bank holidays, I'd put money on the fact they have 29 days + bank holidays off.

It's also not ideal putting the specific number of bank holidays in a contract, considering the king would have broken such a contract last year with the extra bank holiday.

I think people are getting caught up in semantics between 'excluding' and 'plus' when the intention is nearly always the same.

EDIT: sorry I didn't see OP posted and confirmed it to be the case.

Lots of people didn't get the extra BHs (see various posts on this site). Creating an extra BH didn't make it a legal requirement on employers to give it, it depended on the generosity of the employer and/or the wording of the contract