Permitted work

Mory

I'm currently on ESA income related WRAG and also recieve PIP so get SDP.  I also do 7.5 hours a week of permitted work for a local mental health charity for which I have a permanent contract.   They have asked if I would do an extra 2 hours but as a sessional worker so it would be seperate from my contract.   I'm aware you can't have 2 jobs whilst doing permitted work.  Would this count as 2 seperate jobs? It's the same charity and the same role just paid from a different pot of money and not part of my contract. 

marcia_

Mory said:

I'm currently on ESA income related WRAG and also recieve PIP so get SDP.  I also do 7.5 hours a week of permitted work for a local mental health charity for which I have a permanent contract.   They have asked if I would do an extra 2 hours but as a sessional worker so it would be seperate from my contract.   I'm aware you can't have 2 jobs whilst doing permitted work.  Would this count as 2 seperate jobs? It's the same charity and the same role just paid from a different pot of money and not part of my contract. 

 Doesn't look to me to be a second job,, just additional hours on your only job. It doesn't matter which pot the charity pays you from 

Mory

marcia_ said:

Mory said:

I'm currently on ESA income related WRAG and also recieve PIP so get SDP.  I also do 7.5 hours a week of permitted work for a local mental health charity for which I have a permanent contract.   They have asked if I would do an extra 2 hours but as a sessional worker so it would be seperate from my contract.   I'm aware you can't have 2 jobs whilst doing permitted work.  Would this count as 2 seperate jobs? It's the same charity and the same role just paid from a different pot of money and not part of my contract. 

 Doesn't look to me to be a second job,, just additional hours on your only job. It doesn't matter which pot the charity pays you from 

Ok.  Thank you.  I tend to overthink/worry about everything in relation to the DWP. 

Chavez2012

Have the dwp come after you more frequently for doing permitted work?

marcia_

Chavez2012 said:

Have the dwp come after you more frequently for doing permitted work?

 Come after you? 

poppy12345

Chavez2012 said:

Have the dwp come after you more frequently for doing permitted work?

Not sure what you mean by that. Permitted work is allowed providing you work less than 16 hours/week and earn no more than £183.50/week. 

Newcad

Mory said:

   I'm aware you can't have 2 jobs whilst doing permitted work. 

Can you say where you are getting that idea from?

As far as I am aware there is no such restriction on the number of jobs, provided that the total hours worked and total earnings from those hours do not exceed the limits then it is all 'permitted'

Agreed that the PW1 form does not make any provision for entering more than one job, but that's simply because it wouldn't usually be needed.
However you could do a seperate PW1 for each job, with a covering note that you are doing more than one..

(PS. Legally a PW1 form is not even needed, in legislation it is called "Exempt Work" ('exempt' from affecting ESA) and there is no requirement to get the DWP's permission to do it - but I'd advise that it is best to do a PW1 anyway to double check that what work you are doing is exempt, plus it keeps the DWP happy and avoids possible questions in future).