Leisure Centre Parking Charge Notice

Youser

Gr1pr said:

Youser said:

LDast said:

the NtK isn't PoFA compliant and the signage, as pointed out above shows the wrong AOS membership. A simple "go fornicate with yourself you dolts" appeal should put them in their place. However, as they have switched their allegiance from the BPA to the IPC, they are probably being encouraged to simply refuse all appeals anyway.

Unless the OP can find out who actually owns the land and ask them to get the Pin cancelled, this will either wither away over time or end up as a court claim which shouldn't be hard to beat.

Is the NtK not PoFA compliant because the notice does not contain the warning which is required by PoFA paragraph 9(2(f)?

Its a non POFA PCN , using the 6 months plus one month rule, with liability assigned to the driver for the alleged breach of the parking contract 

What is the 6 months plus one month rule?

As they haven’t mentioned anything about holding the keeper responsible for the charge, what would their comeback be if I were to simply say I wasn’t the driver and I refuse their invitation to supply info on the driver?

Thanks

KeithP

Youser said:

Gr1pr said:

Youser said:

LDast said:

the NtK isn't PoFA compliant and the signage, as pointed out above shows the wrong AOS membership. A simple "go fornicate with yourself you dolts" appeal should put them in their place. However, as they have switched their allegiance from the BPA to the IPC, they are probably being encouraged to simply refuse all appeals anyway.

Unless the OP can find out who actually owns the land and ask them to get the Pin cancelled, this will either wither away over time or end up as a court claim which shouldn't be hard to beat.

Is the NtK not PoFA compliant because the notice does not contain the warning which is required by PoFA paragraph 9(2(f)?

Its a non POFA PCN , using the 6 months plus one month rule, with liability assigned to the driver for the alleged breach of the parking contract 

What is the 6 months plus one month rule?

The DVLA allows a parking company up to six months to get keeper details from them.
The parking company's trade association allows their members another month to get a Notice to Keeper to the keeper.

Coupon-mad

Youser said:

Gr1pr said:

Youser said:

LDast said:

the NtK isn't PoFA compliant and the signage, as pointed out above shows the wrong AOS membership. A simple "go fornicate with yourself you dolts" appeal should put them in their place. However, as they have switched their allegiance from the BPA to the IPC, they are probably being encouraged to simply refuse all appeals anyway.

Unless the OP can find out who actually owns the land and ask them to get the Pin cancelled, this will either wither away over time or end up as a court claim which shouldn't be hard to beat.

Is the NtK not PoFA compliant because the notice does not contain the warning which is required by PoFA paragraph 9(2(f)?

As they haven’t mentioned anything about holding the keeper responsible for the charge, what would their comeback be if I were to simply say I wasn’t the driver and I refuse their invitation to supply info on the driver?

I've already replied earlier on this thread telling you to read a certain thread so that you know exactly what to put, and what will happen, based on the appeal by @troublemaker22 in the other Gemini thread.  There's no need for any other advice on this one. Very easy.

Youser

Coupon-mad said:

Youser said:

Gr1pr said:

Youser said:

LDast said:

the NtK isn't PoFA compliant and the signage, as pointed out above shows the wrong AOS membership. A simple "go fornicate with yourself you dolts" appeal should put them in their place. However, as they have switched their allegiance from the BPA to the IPC, they are probably being encouraged to simply refuse all appeals anyway.

Unless the OP can find out who actually owns the land and ask them to get the Pin cancelled, this will either wither away over time or end up as a court claim which shouldn't be hard to beat.

Is the NtK not PoFA compliant because the notice does not contain the warning which is required by PoFA paragraph 9(2(f)?

As they haven’t mentioned anything about holding the keeper responsible for the charge, what would their comeback be if I were to simply say I wasn’t the driver and I refuse their invitation to supply info on the driver?

I've already replied earlier on this thread telling you to read a certain thread so that you know exactly what to put, and what will happen, based on the appeal by @troublemaker22 in the other Gemini thread.  There's no need for any other advice on this one. Very easy.

Thanks. I have just submitted the appeal via their online form. Will update the thread once a response is received.

Would like to thank everyone that contributed, really appreciated.

Youser

Hello all,

I have received this response after appealing,

How should I proceed?

Thanks.

KeithP

Do not reply to that and wait patiently for your appeal to be rejected.

I imagine your next post will be along the lines of "They've rejected my appeal. What do I do now?"

Instead of posting that, read the third post of the NEWBIES thread.

LDast

As long as the known keeper has not blabbed the unknown drivers identity, unintentionally or otherwise, only the unknown driver can be liable for the PCN. There is no need to lie and say you weren't the driver, even if you were. There is no legal obligation for the known keeper to identify the unknown driver. Hopefully your appeal was simply as the known keeper.

As the PPC cannot rely on PoFA to transfer liability from the unknown driver to the known keeper, they have nowhere to go with this. But you are dealing with scammers so they will do their utmost to try and scare you into paying them.

Youser

KeithP said:

Do not reply to that and wait patiently for your appeal to be rejected.

I imagine your next post will be along the lines of "They've rejected my appeal. What do I do now?"

Instead of posting that, read the third post of the NEWBIES thread.

Thanks for reminding me to go back to the Newbies thread.

After reading the Newbies section again, this is what I have understood, I have to wait for this appeal to be rejected and then not bother appealing to IAS as they normally always favour the PPC. I should then ignore all communications from the PPC and Debt Collectors until I get a small claim. This could take a couple of years. 

Have I understood the process correctly?

fisherjim

Yes, but you won't get a small claim because they are little furry kittens!