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Creditor unexpectedly threatening court action

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As a summary i am letting my debts slip into default prior to negotiating payment plans. Credit cards and loans. As advised by the good people here

All going to plan bar one creditor writing to me threatening a county court claim. This is not how the others are behaving

what is the advice here? it presents a potential longer -term problem with bailiffs, who i just can’t have turning up, for a variety of reasons

is it time now to negotiate or will it likely just be a threat and wait until it defaults?
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  • How are they threatening? Phone call, E Mail, text, letter through the post?

    The only one to take any notice is a letter before action sent through the post, you can ignore any other ways.
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  • RAS
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    Has this one creditor issued a default letter to you? Check your credit record as well.

    They can't take any legal action until the default is issued.
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  • Rob5342
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    edited 20 June 2024 at 1:54PM
    They can't take legal action until the debt has defaulted, are you sure it hasn't?

    What did they actually say to you? They often try and imply the worst by using vague phrases like "further recovery action" to try and scsre people into paying them. 
  • RAS
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    Or, referred to our legal team for further action, which may include CCJ?

    It would help if you could type out the exact words, minus any identifying details.
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  • Sly72
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    which lender was it?
    I have Dyslexia which is a learning difficulty that primarily affects the skills involved in accurate and fluent word reading and spelling so some post may not make sense.
  • sourcrates
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    As a summary i am letting my debts slip into default prior to negotiating payment plans. Credit cards and loans. As advised by the good people here

    All going to plan bar one creditor writing to me threatening a county court claim. This is not how the others are behaving

    what is the advice here? it presents a potential longer -term problem with bailiffs, who i just can’t have turning up, for a variety of reasons

    is it time now to negotiate or will it likely just be a threat and wait until it defaults?
    Please disregard the use of bailiffs, it just does not happen for consumer credit debt.

    Even if legal action was successful, 8/10 times it gets left there, even if you don`t pay, the remainder may try to obtain an attachment to your earnings.

    But the use of bailiffs is extremally rare for credit debts, and unless you receive a "letter before action", its just an empty threat.
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  • london1973
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    Rob5342 said:
    They can't take legal action until the debt has defaulted, are you sure it hasn't?

    What did they actually say to you? They often try and imply the worst by using vague phrases like "further recovery action" to try and scsre people into paying them. 
    RAS said:
    Or, referred to our legal team for further action, which may include CCJ?

    It would help if you could type out the exact words, minus any identifying details.
    As a summary i am letting my debts slip into default prior to negotiating payment plans. Credit cards and loans. As advised by the good people here

    All going to plan bar one creditor writing to me threatening a county court claim. This is not how the others are behaving

    what is the advice here? it presents a potential longer -term problem with bailiffs, who i just can’t have turning up, for a variety of reasons

    is it time now to negotiate or will it likely just be a threat and wait until it defaults?
    Please disregard the use of bailiffs, it just does not happen for consumer credit debt.

    Even if legal action was successful, 8/10 times it gets left there, even if you don`t pay, the remainder may try to obtain an attachment to your earnings.

    But the use of bailiffs is extremally rare for credit debts, and unless you receive a "letter before action", its just an empty threat.
    So, it is a ‘letter before claim’ AND it looks like the debt has defaulted- it references the default date of 10/05/2024 (apols i missed that when i 1st posted)

    creditor is Brent Shine Credit Union t/a My Community Bank

    it gives 30 days to pay or ‘we may instruct solicitors to issue court proceedings for the recovery of that amount plus etc etc’ 
  • sourcrates
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    edited 23 June 2024 at 11:07AM
    Credit unions do tend to do this, in order to secure their position.

    Respond to the LBA with your offer of payment, you can ask for evidence if you wish, but in this case its not really in contention.

    Creditor should accept, and you can avoid a CCJ.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • london1973
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    Credit unions do tend to do this, in order to secure their position.

    Respond to the LBA with your offer of payment, you can ask for evidence if you wish, but in this case its not really in contention.

    Creditor should accept, and you can avoid a CCJ.
    thanks so much

    what do you mean ‘ask for evidence’
  • RAS
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    As sourcrates says "but in this case it's not really in contention"

    If you'd got an old account that had been thorough a few debt collection companies, it might be worth asking for the CCA.

    Make My Community Bank a sensible (a little lower than you can manage) payment offer.
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