Sold phone without payment

magpies79

Well if it’s on contract report it lost/stolen and the service provider will block it and will just show no signal and won’t work 

soolin

magpies79 said:

Well if it’s on contract report it lost/stolen and the service provider will block it and will just show no signal and won’t work 

Always worth doing as it stops it being used in the UK but apparently it still works further afield.

flaneurs_lobster

soolin said:

magpies79 said:

Well if it’s on contract report it lost/stolen and the service provider will block it and will just show no signal and won’t work 

Always worth doing as it stops it being used in the UK but apparently it still works further afield.

Isn't the service provided to the SIM card, not the phone? The phone wouldn't have been handed over with the SIM in place, so the network provider has no interest in the phone.

If the phone is still being paid for under a finance deal, can it be (legitimately) sold to a third party?




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elsien

No, you can get the IMEI blocked if you have it which means the phone can't be used with a new sim because the phone itself is blacklisted. 

flaneurs_lobster

elsien said:

No, you can get the IMEI blocked if you have it which means the phone can't be used with a new sim because the phone itself is blacklisted. 

By whom? This might be a phone that has been unused for months, do you contact the mobile operator whose SIM was last in the phone?

elsien

Via the network provider. 

Starekss

Hi all,
So, they paid in the end.

To the people above, I called the place where I got the phone from, they told me that if I will present them with a proof of purchase and give them IMEI number, they can blacklist the phone with Samsung, so that nobody will be able to use it. The phone was fully paid when I was selling it, I would not be selling phone that is still on contract, that is illegal.

flaneurs_lobster

Starekss said:

Hi all,
So, they paid in the end.

To the people above, I called the place where I got the phone from, they told me that if I will present them with a proof of purchase and give them IMEI number, they can blacklist the phone with Samsung, so that nobody will be able to use it. The phone was fully paid when I was selling it, I would not be selling phone that is still on contract, that is illegal.

Glad you got it sorted.

This mechanism for getting a phone blacklisted is worrying though. Your intentions were perfectly reasonable but, hypothetically, say you had gifted the phone to your partner then had an acrimonious break-up, could you have told the same story to your phone supplier and gotten the phone bricked?


 

soolin

flaneurs_lobster said:

Starekss said:

Hi all,
So, they paid in the end.

To the people above, I called the place where I got the phone from, they told me that if I will present them with a proof of purchase and give them IMEI number, they can blacklist the phone with Samsung, so that nobody will be able to use it. The phone was fully paid when I was selling it, I would not be selling phone that is still on contract, that is illegal.

Glad you got it sorted.

This mechanism for getting a phone blacklisted is worrying though. Your intentions were perfectly reasonable but, hypothetically, say you had gifted the phone to your partner then had an acrimonious break-up, could you have told the same story to your phone supplier and gotten the phone bricked?


 

Yes and it happens. It particularly happens on unregulated marketplaces like Facebook where someone sells on a phone , buyer uses it successfully for a week or so and then suddenly finds it has been blacklisted as seller has reported it stolen to their provider in order to claim on insurance . 

PHK

Starekss said:

Hi all,
So, they paid in the end.

To the people above, I called the place where I got the phone from, they told me that if I will present them with a proof of purchase and give them IMEI number, they can blacklist the phone with Samsung, so that nobody will be able to use it. The phone was fully paid when I was selling it, I would not be selling phone that is still on contract, that is illegal.

Generally speaking, you are free to sell a contract phone (as long as it is yours) even if you are still paying the contract. One provider writes some of their contracts in such a way that the phone doesn’t became yours until after six months.