Removing external patio and window

-DeeDee-

Morning all. I am replacing and insulating my conservatory glass roof for lightweight tiles and want to open up the kitchen to the conservatory. I know by doing this I would need to inform building regulations or whenever I come to the to sell the house I could have a slight problem where the buyer would have to get  indemnity insurance out. To be fair the conservatory already has a big radiator in there which is connected to the rest of the house so I am already in breach anyway. This was already there when I brought the house. 

My question is. I have the soil pipe running down  through the middle of the kitchen which is boxed up and goes down the load bearing wall and relocating  would cost alot. If I remove the patio door & frame and the same with the kitchen window on the load bearing wall, would I still need some sort of support beam running across, or would upstairs still be supported? 

I have attached 2 images one is my kitchen and another with how I would like it. 


Any help and advice is much appreciated. 







  

stuart45

Have you got any photos showing the external brickwork showing just over the frame. On some properties timber frames gave some support to the masonry above on the external skin of a cavity wall.

-DeeDee-

stuart45 said:

Have you got any photos showing the external brickwork showing just over the frame. On some properties timber frames gave some support to the masonry above on the external skin of a cavity wall.

Do you mean this side? 

stuart45

Yes, that side. If it's a cavity wall, it's possible there's no lintel on the outer skin.
Plastic windows over less support than timber ones, so normally lintels are installed when fitting plastic. 
How old is the property? 60's.

FreeBear

-DeeDee- said:

Morning all. I am replacing and insulating my conservatory glass roof for lightweight tiles and want to open up the kitchen to the conservatory. I know by doing this I would need to inform building regulations or whenever I come to the to sell the house I could have a slight problem where the buyer would have to get  indemnity insurance out. To be fair the conservatory already has a big radiator in there which is connected to the rest of the house so I am already in breach anyway. This was already there when I brought the house.

Radiators can always be turned off or even removed completely without too much effort. Refitting exterior grade doors & windows would be a much bigger (and expensive) undertaking. Whilst I can see the attraction in opening up the area, you will still have a conservatory that is relatively poorly insulated sucking out heat during the winter.

Replacing the sliding patio door with a bifold would give the impression of being open, and still give you the option to shut off the space in winter.

-DeeDee-

stuart45 said:

Yes, that side. If it's a cavity wall, it's possible there's no lintel on the outer skin.
Plastic windows over less support than timber ones, so normally lintels are installed when fitting plastic. 
How old is the property? 60's.

The houses around my estate was built between 1967-1975. So with there being plastic frames lintels could already be in place?

If they're not in place and a lintel has to be installed, this can be done after the conservatory roof has been installed without damaging it? 

-DeeDee-

FreeBear said:

-DeeDee- said:

Morning all. I am replacing and insulating my conservatory glass roof for lightweight tiles and want to open up the kitchen to the conservatory. I know by doing this I would need to inform building regulations or whenever I come to the to sell the house I could have a slight problem where the buyer would have to get  indemnity insurance out. To be fair the conservatory already has a big radiator in there which is connected to the rest of the house so I am already in breach anyway. This was already there when I brought the house.

Radiators can always be turned off or even removed completely without too much effort. Refitting exterior grade doors & windows would be a much bigger (and expensive) undertaking. Whilst I can see the attraction in opening up the area, you will still have a conservatory that is relatively poorly insulated sucking out heat during the winter.

Replacing the sliding patio door with a bifold would give the impression of being open, and still give you the option to shut off the space in winter.

Bifoldable doors is my last option to be fair but I just hate the threshold being there plus they're not cheap to buy. 

stuart45

-DeeDee- said:

stuart45 said:

Yes, that side. If it's a cavity wall, it's possible there's no lintel on the outer skin.
Plastic windows over less support than timber ones, so normally lintels are installed when fitting plastic. 
How old is the property? 60's.

The houses around my estate was built between 1967-1975. So with there being plastic frames lintels could already be in place?

If they're not in place and a lintel has to be installed, this can be done after the conservatory roof has been installed without damaging it? 

There could be lintels, but possibly not.
They could be installed later, as it's a simple job. The inner skin should have a lintel. The odds are that the frames can be removed without issues from a structural point. The thermal side is different.