Anyone know where to buy mains > 12 volt transformer> garden water pump? I just bought a pump for

Gobsh

Anyone know where to buy mains > 12 volt transformer> garden water pump?

I just bought a pump for an outdoor water feature, just opened it and noticed it's 250 volt mains to the pump 😮, mains electricity submerged in water!!!!

Not only did I not consider this an option, i assume it was illegal.

Anyway a further browse on Amazon I notice all water pumps are wired with 250 mains into the water. 

Obviously dont want to buy a fatal electrical hazard for our garden.

DullGreyGuy

Do you have a link to the product? 

If its designed for a 230v input it presumably has a transformer built in and so won't take well to being fed 12v

Farway

Gobsh said:

Anyone know where to buy mains > 12 volt transformer> garden water pump?

I just bought a pump for an outdoor water feature, just opened it and noticed it's 250 volt mains to the pump 😮, mains electricity submerged in water!!!!

Not only did I not consider this an option, i assume it was illegal.

Anyway a further browse on Amazon I notice all water pumps are wired with 250 mains into the water. 

Obviously dont want to buy a fatal electrical hazard for our garden.

That's why it should be fed from an RCD or similar protected & weatherproof source, not just any old 13A socket

Gobsh

I Should've explained I'm returning the scary main to water pump back. I'm looking for a mains down to 12 volt to go outside and into the water for pump (like Christmas lights)

DullGreyGuy said:

Do you have a link to the product? 

If its designed for a 230v input it presumably has a transformer built in and so won't take well to being fed 12v

Gobsh

I won't be taking my main electricity outside at all. It sounds crazy

Farway said:

That's why it should be fed from an RCD or similar protected & weatherproof source, not just any old 13A socket

CliveOfIndia

Gobsh said:

I won't be taking my main electricity outside at all. It sounds crazy

It's not crazy at all, so long as it's properly protected by an RCD and the appliance is plugged in to a purpose-designed weatherproof socket.

I get where you're coming from - we're always told that electricity and water don't mix.  But there are plenty of applications where outdoor stuff runs on mains voltage, and there are plenty of products out there specifically designed to make it safe.

Gobsh

Just for anyone with same question. It's unsafe to put mains electric into water on semi permanent basis which is exacerbated by absolutely zero reason not to use low voltage for a pond pump. Zero!! Nadda!!

I've concluded this bizarre behaviour is simply supply and demand. Christmas lights are used by nearly every household in UK, ergo safe low voltage transformer are included in your £15 light set, pond pumps are a minority item, ergo safety is not included in your £25. I did find plenty of low voltage pond pumps available at aquatic centres (they don't even offer unsafe mains option), but notice the low voltage transformers are sold separately, another £20. In fact the transformer looks identical to the ones in my garden lights. We can accept that safety has a price, but putting mains electricity in water is simply not safe.