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Car Damage to Garden Wall

DosgDinner
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Hi All,
I have searched this forum but cannot find any threads that cover my situation.
Brief background, runaway car hits garden wall as handbrake not engaged. Driver admits liabilty, ins. co. contacted and admit liability. Didn't go through house insurance (I know !).
Turns out the bricks used to build the wall were unique from Ryarsh who went out of business many years ago.
The legal position seems to be that the driver (not in car at the time) is liable only for the damaged section of wall. About 9m of the 10m wall is damaged, mainly by being moved off of its foundations. What I am trying to ascertain is: does anyone know what the legal position is if the bricks cannot be replaced ?
Any help would be appreciated.
I have searched this forum but cannot find any threads that cover my situation.
Brief background, runaway car hits garden wall as handbrake not engaged. Driver admits liabilty, ins. co. contacted and admit liability. Didn't go through house insurance (I know !).
Turns out the bricks used to build the wall were unique from Ryarsh who went out of business many years ago.
The legal position seems to be that the driver (not in car at the time) is liable only for the damaged section of wall. About 9m of the 10m wall is damaged, mainly by being moved off of its foundations. What I am trying to ascertain is: does anyone know what the legal position is if the bricks cannot be replaced ?
Any help would be appreciated.
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Legally speaking they are liable for the devaluation of the property, the fact that insurers pay for repairs is just that it is an easy proxy for loss of value.
Have you tried reclamation yards or online brick matching services?
How many of the existing bricks can be reused? How many are you short? Any areas behind evergreen shrubs where a mismatched brick wouldn't be noticeable?1 -
A good proper brickie will manage to reuse a lot of the bricks and either match those missing or find a way to create a pleasing pattern. Don't let them fob you off with a local cheapest repair type. Insist it's done properly.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on Debt Free Wannabe and Old Style Money Saving boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
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While I agree with Brie that you should not be fobbed off with a cheap repair, no insurer is going to pay for custom bricks to be made to exactly match your wall! They will pay for your wall to be rebuilt with the materials that are readily available. If you want to scour the reclamation yards to find more Ryarsh bricks yourself, this is the best way of imrpoving the quality of the final result.
Any loss in the value of your property due to good quality repair is going to be mininal and will not warrant the payment of any sum for the loss of quality. You might be aware of the repair, but anyone coming to view your house to buy it is probably not going to notice, unless the repair is done badly.The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.0 -
Hi Guys,
Thanks for the replies.
DullGreyGuy. Yes I have tried local merchants but not available anywhere.
Brie. I have a good guy lined up (and co-incidentally his father built the original wall !).
I am having a bit of a nightmare getting the car insurer to agree to anything - I am the third party.
I have been told by 3 different contractors that the wall will have to be demolished and re-buit. The cost of recliaming 90% of the wall will be even higher. I am trying to judge what the actual legal liability of the drivers insurer is.0 -
Sometimes it is cheaper to start from the beginning rather than fix the damage so ultimately submit 2 estimates, one for a rebuild and one for a fix and let them chose which they want to go for.0 -
Hi DullGreyGuy,
Thanks. OK I understand that.
The insurer has passed the claim over to a claims management company and they are claiming the driver is only responsible for the cost of the damaged section, magically estimated at 50%! I will probably have to go to small claims to get anything but trying to work out what I can legally claim for. Probably not worth involving a solicitor as only likely to be about 8K.0 -
Out of interest who is the insurer ?0
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Hence the two quotes, just repair the bit and rebuild the whole thing. If the later is cheaper than the former you can show you are mitigating your losses however they are free to pay the higher amount for a repair job if they want1
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Hi caprikid
The big nautical group.0 -
caprikid1 said:Out of interest who is the insurer ?0
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