Massive passport problems.

Dan951

Bit of an odd one for me so apologies for the long post.

I am 36 and was currently trying to apply for my first adult passport. I was born in the uk and  adopted and lost contact with my parents about 17 years ago, I'm am only child with no family that I know of, I don't even know my dads details and my mother was Irish born, In order to get her birth certificate I need information that is impossible for me to know meaning I cant get one sent out. Passport office are saying the only way for me to get one is to apply for british citizenship through naturalisation. I am struggling already to keep my head above water in a minimum wage job and cant afford the odd £2000 it will cost just for a piece of paper to say Im british even though I was born here.

Is there any other way? or am I trapped here, the thought of never being able to leave is causing troubling thoughts.

TELLIT01

Do you mean you lost contact with your adoptive parents or birth parents?  Either way, adoptions in the UK are all registered, as far as I know, so there should be a way of getting to the information you require.

This link might be helpful  https://www.gov.uk/adoption-records

I hope you get it sorted.

elsien

Just to check, it’s your adoptive parents you don’t have the details for? Is there not anything on the adoption certificate?

DullGreyGuy

Dan951 said:

Bit of an odd one for me so apologies for the long post.

I am 36 and was currently trying to apply for my first adult passport. I was born in the uk and  adopted and lost contact with my parents about 17 years ago, I'm am only child with no family that I know of, I don't even know my dads details and my mother was Irish born, In order to get her birth certificate I need information that is impossible for me to know meaning I cant get one sent out. Passport office are saying the only way for me to get one is to apply for british citizenship through naturalisation. I am struggling already to keep my head above water in a minimum wage job and cant afford the odd £2000 it will cost just for a piece of paper to say Im british even though I was born here.

Is there any other way? or am I trapped here, the thought of never being able to leave is causing troubling thoughts.

Why are you trying to get your birth certificate? Your adoption certificate effectively replaces it

eDicky

You are UK born, what do you currently have that indicates your British citizenship - birth certificate, adoption certificate, NI number, NHS number, etc,.? Parental details are required for the first passport application but if you clarify exactly what you do have it may better allow those with the right knowledge to advise, hopefully to avoid the need to apply for british citizenship through naturalisation.

smudge56

Your parents details should be on your adoption certificate. If you have that look up https://www.freebmd.org.uk/. You may be able to find your adoptive father if he was born in England or wales.  From there you can order his birth certificate from GRO.  

It must be father’s as mum is Irish.  You won’t need a marriage certificate as nationality can come through any British parent on the adoption certificate.

thegreenone

Are you saying you don't have your post-adoptive 'birth' certificate, with your adoptive parents on it?

I was born before 1975 so I had to have counselling before my details were released to me and they are not online. But yours should be.

From that 'birth' certificate you should be able to trace your adoptive father.

DullGreyGuy

thegreenone said:

Are you saying you don't have your post-adoptive 'birth' certificate, with your adoptive parents on it?

I was born before 1975 so I had to have counselling before my details were released to me and they are not online. But yours should be.

From that 'birth' certificate you should be able to trace your adoptive father.

It's a certificate of adoption not a "birth" certificate. It's not clear if the OP is trying to get their adoption certificate or their original birth certificate. 

I went through a private adoption, it was arranged before I was born and was passed to my adoptive parents a week or so after my birth. I knew I was adopted and managed to piece things together myself, after all most these things are public record, and traced my biologic mother myself (biological father is disputed). Once I made contact with her and found the name she gave me it was simple to get my original birth certificate (which naturally only names her). 

I asked the local council if they would make the initial contact with her as I could see her situation and didnt want to put her in a difficult situation if she hadn't told anyone about me. Whilst I am post 1975 the council did try and insist that I paid them to trace her and me have counselling too. I refused and they ultimately agreed to just send a letter but did demand I meet them in person first and they spent most that time warning me about not having sexual relations with her or my half siblings... curious if your session were equally slanted @thegreenone

thegreenone

Apologies for not replying earlier.  An adoption certificate looks very similar to a birth certificate, but you have to read the titles.   The OP hasn't replied so we don't know exactly what they are after.

@DullGreyGuy Wow, that was intense.  I didn't/don't want to meet my birth mother, I just wanted to find out why I was adopted.  I was counselled that if I sought her out, she might not want to meet me etc.  I have a copy of my records and that's enough for me.  Although, it doesn't contain any health issues, which would be quite helpful right now. 

DullGreyGuy

thegreenone said:

DullGreyGuy  Wow, that was intense.  I didn't/don't want to meet my birth mother, I just wanted to find out why I was adopted.  I was counselled that if I sought her out, she might not want to meet me etc.  I have a copy of my records and that's enough for me.  Although, it doesn't contain any health issues, which would be quite helpful right now. 

So I had found out about my back story, my (adoptive) mother's sister's daughter (ie my cousin) was 13 and had come home to tell her mum that one of her class mates was pregnant. One thing led to another and before I was born it was agreed I'd be adopted. Since meeting I found her situation was more challenging which lead to the outcome. 

I decided to meet because we were trying for kids and I have unusual medical issues and was curious if they were inherited plus some minor events had happened that suggested a more unusual background. I have to admit I regret it... she has 3 kids from 3 guys before she was 20 and none since nor with her partner of 40 years. Despite 3 different fathers we all look just like her (contrary to Social Services fears that was the least thing that turns me on) but the others dont share my condition. It was clearly a very big thing for her whilst a very academic undertaking for me. 

We met up a few times, meeting her wider family, but it didnt work for me so ultimately disappeared back into the shadows.

Hopefully you got what you needed from what you learnt @thegreenone