Induction Cooker

DullGreyGuy

silvercar said:

DullGreyGuy said:

silvercar said:

DullGreyGuy said:

So according to https://media3.neff-international.com/Documents/specsheet/en-GB/T48FD23X2.pdf the total power handling is 4.7KW if on a 20amp fuse but can be reduced to work on a 13amp fuse. The standard full power on each ring adds to 9.8KW and the Boost on each adds to 16.5KW

As both exceed the total max you cannot use all the rings on full at the same time, you can really only use 2 of the rings on full and a tiny amount of power to a third. Appreciate we dont all cook on full all the time but it is useful for brining a pan to boil etc. 

If you set two of the large rings to full and then attempt to set a third to full does it not show its limiting the power of the others? That would be fairly poor if it doesn't. 

Ours is 7.5KW and 4 zones so can get closer to full on each ring but still not there but when you try to exceed 7.5kw you can see it steps down the other rings to allow you to do it rather than leaving you thinking everything is at the original levels set. 

Certainly 7.5KW is plenty of power to go around for us and our needs, yours is certainly better than the 3KW versions that are plugged in but some with big families/parties etc may appreciate something more powerful than ours. 

Interesting. I’ve never used them all on full. In fact, I haven’t found anything that needs to be cooked above a 7 (out of 9). I’ve definitely used 4 at once, but not on full. Looking in the instructions, the 5 rings have a max power (level 9) of 1.8, 1.4, 2.2, 2.2, 2.2. Though the final 2 combine to 3.6 when both are on. So the max total is 9kw. I’ve never used the power boost, which is higher, but you can only use it for one zone on each side of the Hob at a time.

It is a little academic and have no way of knowing if actually our gas supply had enough flow rate to actually allow all 5 of its burners to achieve their maximum output at the same time or not. It may have had the same problem and just didnt know about. 

We do use max power and boost at times but its mainly limited to bringing a giant pot of water to the boil as the circa 4.5kw max output on full boost will boil it much quicker than the 3kw kettle or its to sear steaks that have already been cooked sous vide and so you just want a nuclear hot surface to create the mallard effect and make it look more appealing but your talking 20s per side as you dont want to cook the inside any more. 

Havent fully managed to teach my wife that a hob has more setting than on and full (likewise the oven) but normally we are similar and everything is done between 4 and 7 also on a scale up to 9. 

We have a Quooker for hot water, whatever power that has. I wouldn’t think of boiling water on the hob, especially as we don’t have an extractor near the hob. I’m also far more likely to use my griddle pan for stripe marks on fish, than maillard steaks.

1.6-2.9kw depending on model of the tank but its naturally different because its pre-heated and stored so its on demand for up to 7L

Back home for the wife there is an almost pastie like thing thats boiled rather than baked. Traditionally someone declares they want to make them and a bunch of friends/family descend with each bringing a component. Loud music, copious amounts of rum then ensues with an almost product line type setup around a table with each person doing a few steps of the process. The production of 100 or so of these things is normal, they are then boiled, cooled and each person takes away their share of the finished pasties. 

Not a daily occurrence but the pot used is about 25L from memory so would take a long time to fill with boiling water from a kettle or Quooker and water temp drops a lot after adding a large bunch of the packages in so the high output keeps the line going and reduces the amount of time/rum used. 

They're really a Xmas thing (which means Dec-Jan not just the day itself) but those who get a bit homesick sometimes fancy a taste of home at other times of the year. They're crazy expensive to buy from specialist shops too, would get into the trade of selling them were our council one that took a pragmatic view on occasional food businesses. 

Krysai

Racky_Roo said:

I wouldn’t go for an expensive induction hob, they all pretty much do the same thing. I’ve had various ones and the one i bought from AO.com for about £150 was perfectly adequate - remember you’ll most likely  all new saucepans so save the money for them

I'm looking to change too but I was told not to go for a cheaper option because they just operate off a 13amp plug and when you have all four rings on the go at once the performance drops off.  Make sure you buy one that wired directly in rather than a plug

DullGreyGuy

Krysai said:

Racky_Roo said:

I wouldn’t go for an expensive induction hob, they all pretty much do the same thing. I’ve had various ones and the one i bought from AO.com for about £150 was perfectly adequate - remember you’ll most likely  all new saucepans so save the money for them

I'm looking to change too but I was told not to go for a cheaper option because they just operate off a 13amp plug and when you have all four rings on the go at once the performance drops off.  Make sure you buy one that wired directly in rather than a plug

It's more about looking at what the maximum power consumption is rather than just if it has a plug or not. Anything under 3KW could be supplied bare wire or with a plug. Some you can change, as per SilverCar's, theirs is 4.7KW as standard so needs hard wiring or an industrial plug (which would be silly) or can be downgraded to 3KW and a standard 13amp plug. Ours is 7.5KW and cannot be downgraded so has to be hardwired/industrial plug

You do need to look at the overall max, dont add up the value for each ring as most cannot get close to supplying full power to all their rings. 

FreeBear

Krysai said:

Racky_Roo said:

I wouldn’t go for an expensive induction hob, they all pretty much do the same thing. I’ve had various ones and the one i bought from AO.com for about £150 was perfectly adequate - remember you’ll most likely  all new saucepans so save the money for them

I'm looking to change too but I was told not to go for a cheaper option because they just operate off a 13amp plug and when you have all four rings on the go at once the performance drops off.  Make sure you buy one that wired directly in rather than a plug

Some of the cheaper models need hard wiring in and will give full power to all zones should you ever need it. But the comment about the 13A plug is still valid regardless of the price you pay.

coffeehound

DullGreyGuy said:

Anything under 3KW could be supplied bare wire or with a plug. 

Really?  I would have expected any hob up to 3kW to come with a plug as default

vacheron

DullGreyGuy said:

Krysai said:

Racky_Roo said:

I wouldn’t go for an expensive induction hob, they all pretty much do the same thing. I’ve had various ones and the one i bought from AO.com for about £150 was perfectly adequate - remember you’ll most likely  all new saucepans so save the money for them

I'm looking to change too but I was told not to go for a cheaper option because they just operate off a 13amp plug and when you have all four rings on the go at once the performance drops off.  Make sure you buy one that wired directly in rather than a plug

It's more about looking at what the maximum power consumption is rather than just if it has a plug or not. Anything under 3KW could be supplied bare wire or with a plug. Some you can change, as per SilverCar's, theirs is 4.7KW as standard so needs hard wiring or an industrial plug (which would be silly) or can be downgraded to 3KW and a standard 13amp plug. Ours is 7.5KW and cannot be downgraded so has to be hardwired/industrial plug

You do need to look at the overall max, dont add up the value for each ring as most cannot get close to supplying full power to all their rings. 

Our Neff 5 ring induction hob we had fitted with our new kitchen about 4 years ago requies 13.8KW so It's running on its own dedicated circuit with 10mm2 twin and earth from a 32A RCBO. I haven't dared to see if I can get it to run at full power yet! 

   

DullGreyGuy

coffeehound said:

DullGreyGuy said:

Anything under 3KW could be supplied bare wire or with a plug. 

Really?  I would have expected any hob up to 3kW to come with a plug as default

I'd expect it to but it doesn't have to. In the inverse bought a 6kw item for the Mrs that I was expecting to come bare wire but it came with an industrial plug which then threw up the conundrum of if to remove the plug or install the appropriate socket for it. 

silverwhistle

I've had an induction hob for over 10 years since I returned to my house after renting it out to find the gas hob condemned. Very happy with my cheap Swedish company one..

A bit of an aside really, but hope to get a single portable ring with three pin plug from the same retailer as it would be ideal for camping: many EVs can do V2L (Vehicle to load) and not having to cart round a hob and gas cylinders would be really useful. The absence of naked flame might also be useful in some circumstances.

kimwp

Snuggles said:

Hi OP, random question, but I've been thinking of buying this cooker myself (the AEG CIB6732). Would be really grateful if you could confirm how many shelves it comes with in the main oven? Was concerned as the AO spec says it comes with only 1 shelf.

hi @Snuggles, three wire shelves plus a wire rack in an oven tray (think that's the name). No wire shelf in the top oven, I'm assuming the ones in the main oven fit the top, but I can't open the door fully due to where the cooker is at the moment.

Snuggles

@kimwp Thanks for letting me know - much appreciated. Sounds like one rack will fit in the top oven, leaving the standard two racks for the main oven. Strange that I'd seen reviews about people complaining there was only one rack in the main oven.