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Former Halifax Employee Share Scheme Losses.

I participated in the Halifax Employee Share scheme many years ago and had the maximum monthly amount deducted from my salary (£250 per month) from when the scheme was first launched until I was made redundant in March 1998.  (I believe the Halifax floated on June 2nd 1997 but not sure when employee share scheme started)  I think you got to buy the shares at 20% discount.  These shares converted to Lloyds Shares in January 2009.
The shares have made large losses and I am probably 'clutching at straws' but hoping to sell them to offset the loss against a future Capital Gains Tax bill.  The problem is I have no evidence of the initial acquisition costs.  I have contacted my former employer who have not replied.  Equiniti could not help me either.
The current indicative value is £590.  I would be grateful to know if anyone has been in a similar position or has any idea how I can quantify/evidence the loss.  I am not sure what evidence HMRC would require.  Many thanks

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  • masonic
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    Do you have your payslips from this time?
  • eskbanker
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    evsue said:
    I have contacted my former employer who have not replied.
    If you submit a Subject Access Request then they're legally obliged to provide your data within a month - that's no guarantee they'll still have anything relevant but if you make it clear exactly what you're looking for then it should at least resolve that one way or the other:

    https://apply.halifax-online.co.uk/sales-content/cwa/h/gforms/F241/
  • Wonka_2
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    eskbanker said:
    evsue said:
    I have contacted my former employer who have not replied.
    If you submit a Subject Access Request then they're legally obliged to provide your data within a month - that's no guarantee they'll still have anything relevant but if you make it clear exactly what you're looking for then it should at least resolve that one way or the other:

    https://apply.halifax-online.co.uk/sales-content/cwa/h/gforms/F241/
    I was about to respond similar (and that for me in a similar position, albeit with a different employer, I could access all the info via the EquatePlus portal) - but then I looked that the OP was looking to go back to pre-1998. I can’t imagine an SAR is going to bring up much but nothing ventured……
  • evsue
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    masonic said:
    Do you have your payslips from this time?
    No I don't have these unfortunately. 
  • evsue
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    eskbanker said:
    evsue said:
    I have contacted my former employer who have not replied.
    If you submit a Subject Access Request then they're legally obliged to provide your data within a month - that's no guarantee they'll still have anything relevant but if you make it clear exactly what you're looking for then it should at least resolve that one way or the other:

    https://apply.halifax-online.co.uk/sales-content/cwa/h/gforms/F241/
    Thank you I have just submitted a request.
  • evsue
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    Wonka_2 said:
    eskbanker said:
    evsue said:
    I have contacted my former employer who have not replied.
    If you submit a Subject Access Request then they're legally obliged to provide your data within a month - that's no guarantee they'll still have anything relevant but if you make it clear exactly what you're looking for then it should at least resolve that one way or the other:

    https://apply.halifax-online.co.uk/sales-content/cwa/h/gforms/F241/
    I was about to respond similar (and that for me in a similar position, albeit with a different employer, I could access all the info via the EquatePlus portal) - but then I looked that the OP was looking to go back to pre-1998. I can’t imagine an SAR is going to bring up much but nothing ventured……
    Thank you for your reply - may I ask did you get details of actual salary deductions from your employer or a statement regarding the shares purchase price from the employee share scheme?   
  • Wonka_2
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    edited 22 May 2024 at 9:29AM
    evsue said:
    Wonka_2 said:
    eskbanker said:
    evsue said:
    I have contacted my former employer who have not replied.
    If you submit a Subject Access Request then they're legally obliged to provide your data within a month - that's no guarantee they'll still have anything relevant but if you make it clear exactly what you're looking for then it should at least resolve that one way or the other:

    https://apply.halifax-online.co.uk/sales-content/cwa/h/gforms/F241/
    I was about to respond similar (and that for me in a similar position, albeit with a different employer, I could access all the info via the EquatePlus portal) - but then I looked that the OP was looking to go back to pre-1998. I can’t imagine an SAR is going to bring up much but nothing ventured……
    Thank you for your reply - may I ask did you get details of actual salary deductions from your employer or a statement regarding the shares purchase price from the employee share scheme?   
    I could see, by month

    Salary sacrifice amount
    Shares purchased
    Balance carried over to next month (I.e not used for purchase)
    Price paid per share
    +/- vs current share price
    Value of share subject to tax (I.e less than 3yrs held) 
    Value of shares free of tax

    I cant get a full breakdown as I closed the account a couple of months ago on leaving 

    ETA this went back to mid 2000’s when I joined the scheme 

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