Best way to buy new TV for shared lounge in supported living house?

HillStreetBlues

elsien said:

This. Because otherwise the same argument could be made for the shared settee in the lounge, for example and I’m pretty sure your deputy wouldn’t want to be paying all of the money for that either.

One person feels the sofa is very uncomfortable, two people feel it's fine.
The two people are very unlikely to pay for a replacement, so the options would be for that person to buy another sofa, or stick with the uncomfortable one. 

williewonder

The other two people in the property are deemed to have capacity so they manage there own money. It's only me who has a deputyship. They will not pay anything towards the TV.

I only want a £500 TV. its me who 90% watches it. But a member of staff who's good with electronics looked at the current TV and fixed up so its working better now, but I think its the principle, I wanted a new TV and they wouldn't let me have one. What if it proper brakes next time? I can't live without a TV as I'll miss all my shows. I could get a TV for my room but I don't have Tivo in my bedroom.

Also the settees are provided by the housing association and replaced every 5 years, we get to choose from DFS what we like. 

williewonder

I would like the deputyship annulling but it's really hard to do once you have it in place. My community nurse from the intellectual disability team isn't forthcoming with another capacity assessment and he maintains (stubbornly) that he also thinks I lack capacity.

I live with people who get all there benefits, PIP and ESA and they're mother takes them shopping for food every two weeks on a Thursday and all the rest of their money goes into fruit machines and betting machines yet they have capacity so its okay.

Muttleythefrog

williewonder said:

I would like the deputyship annulling but it's really hard to do once you have it in place. My community nurse from the intellectual disability team isn't forthcoming with another capacity assessment and he maintains (stubbornly) that he also thinks I lack capacity.

I live with people who get all there benefits, PIP and ESA and they're mother takes them shopping for food every two weeks on a Thursday and all the rest of their money goes into fruit machines and betting machines yet they have capacity so its okay.

I'm pleased the TV situation seems at least temporarily fixed. We have to assume the professionals in play are best placed to determine your capacities. I do think £500 for a TV is excessive unless you're after the latest tech or a big screen but then I've not paid more than a few quid for one for as long as I can remember... people are always trying to get rid. Try to think of other things you can spend your money could be used for to improve your quality of life...

..or dare I say to make more money like a 2nd hand fruit machine in your room...lol - this is a joke before anyone responds! 

To add.... I actually watch virtually all my TV now on computer... sometimes even my phone if in bed. Is a PC an option for your room.. do you already have one... gives you more flexibility on what and when you watch plus there'd be subscription services if you needed more content. (I actually sometimes watch several channels at once on my PC). 

elsien

Challenging a deputyship via the legal route is long-winded and expensive. 

You could make a complaint to the local authority or mental health trust (I’m guessing mental health as you’re under 117) with regards to a further capacity review around your finances and querying their reasons for not doing so. 

MattMattMattUK

williewonder said:

The other two people in the property are deemed to have capacity so they manage there own money. It's only me who has a deputyship. They will not pay anything towards the TV.

I only want a £500 TV. its me who 90% watches it. But a member of staff who's good with electronics looked at the current TV and fixed up so its working better now, but I think its the principle, I wanted a new TV and they wouldn't let me have one. What if it proper brakes next time? I can't live without a TV as I'll miss all my shows. I could get a TV for my room but I don't have Tivo in my bedroom.

Also the settees are provided by the housing association and replaced every 5 years, we get to choose from DFS what we like. 

Anyone can live without TV, missing TV shows is not something one should feel is life and death. 

You could put a TV in your room and you could get a Tivo, or alternatively you could watch shows on a tablet, laptop or phone. 

williewonder said:

I would like the deputyship annulling but it's really hard to do once you have it in place. My community nurse from the intellectual disability team isn't forthcoming with another capacity assessment and he maintains (stubbornly) that he also thinks I lack capacity.

Unfortunately the lack of capacity means that you are unlikely to be in a good position to judge or assess your lack of capacity. I know it must be difficult but you have to accept that you are not the best person to make this judgement call. Intellectual disability and capacity assessments are usually made long term due to the nature of the conditions as they do not tend to change over time. 

williewonder said:

I live with people who get all there benefits, PIP and ESA and they're mother takes them shopping for food every two weeks on a Thursday and all the rest of their money goes into fruit machines and betting machines yet they have capacity so its okay.

I work with someone in one of my businesses who whilst having full capacity and being someone who is generally intelligent, is what can only be described as a financial car crash, he has for all of his adult life refused to life within his means and it causes him a lot of stress and problems, yet he refuses to change. Unfortunately having capacity does not mean that people make good choices, indeed many people with full capacity continually make awful decisions in their lives. 

What is your remaining monthly income after all essentials have been paid? If you have £50 a month left and you want to spend £500 on a TV then I can see why someone would see that as not a sensible decision, if you have £1,000 left per month after all essentials then that would be somewhat different. 

williewonder

What is your remaining monthly income after all essentials have been paid? If you have £50 a month left and you want to spend £500 on a TV then I can see why someone would see that as not a sensible decision, if you have £1,000 left per month after all essentials then that would be somewhat different. 

After my bills are paid and I receive my personal allowance of £100 a week I have over £1000 a month spare from my benefits so I can well afford a £500 TV.