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I am confused if I should apply for Planning permission or ask for change of use.

I have a permitted development, garden room. 
  • The space is only for recreational use
  • It has a bathroom and kitchenette
I now want to make it as habitable space.
I am confused if I should apply for Planning permission or ask for change of use?

Many thanks
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  • Grumpy_chap
    Grumpy_chap Posts: 18,688 Forumite
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    I have a permitted development, garden room. 
    • The space is only for recreational use
    • It has a bathroom and kitchenette
    I now want to make it as habitable space.
    I am confused if I should apply for Planning permission or ask for change of use?

    Many thanks
    Does the garden room meet building regulations for habitation?
  • born_again
    born_again Posts: 21,295 Forumite
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    I have a permitted development, garden room. 
    • The space is only for recreational use
    • It has a bathroom and kitchenette
    I now want to make it as habitable space.
    I am confused if I should apply for Planning permission or ask for change of use?

    Many thanks
     Habitable rooms are living, sleeping, eating and cooking rooms. 

    Don't think that "recreational use" will cover your intended usage. Best to speak to planning office at council.
    Life in the slow lane
  • Section62
    Section62 Posts: 10,181 Forumite
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    I have a permitted development, garden room. 
    • The space is only for recreational use
    • It has a bathroom and kitchenette
    I now want to make it as habitable space.
    I am confused if I should apply for Planning permission or ask for change of use?

    Many thanks
    Change of use is a form of planning consent.  You would apply for consent to use the garden room as habitable accommodation rather than as an outbuilding ancillary to the dwelling. You may have problems if the council think it might be used as a separate dwelling rather than as a (detached) extension.

    You'll also need to comply with building regs... which could get expensive depending on the quality of the original construction.

    Before starting the process you need to be absolutely sure the garden room was PD to start with.
  • FreeBear
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    Section62 said:
    I have a permitted development, garden room. 
    • The space is only for recreational use
    • It has a bathroom and kitchenette
    I now want to make it as habitable space.
    I am confused if I should apply for Planning permission or ask for change of use?

    Many thanks
    Change of use is a form of planning consent.  You would apply for consent to use the garden room as habitable accommodation rather than as an outbuilding ancillary to the dwelling. You may have problems if the council think it might be used as a separate dwelling rather than as a (detached) extension.

    You'll also need to comply with building regs... which could get expensive depending on the quality of the original construction.

    Before starting the process you need to be absolutely sure the garden room was PD to start with.
    With a bathroom and kitchen area, it sounds like self contained accommodation already. Doubt very much that it would have been permitted development if constructed with those facilities from the outset.

    Any language construct that forces such insanity in this case should be abandoned without regrets. –
    Erik Aronesty, 2014

    Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.
  • Bookworm105
    Bookworm105 Posts: 2,015 Forumite
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    bite the bullet and ask the council, none of us on here can give you the definitive answer you seem to be wanting
  • Archishard
    Archishard Posts: 9 Forumite
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    Section62 said:
    I have a permitted development, garden room. 
    • The space is only for recreational use
    • It has a bathroom and kitchenette
    I now want to make it as habitable space.
    I am confused if I should apply for Planning permission or ask for change of use?

    Many thanks
    Change of use is a form of planning consent.  You would apply for consent to use the garden room as habitable accommodation rather than as an outbuilding ancillary to the dwelling. You may have problems if the council think it might be used as a separate dwelling rather than as a (detached) extension.

    You'll also need to comply with building regs... which could get expensive depending on the quality of the original construction.

    Before starting the process you need to be absolutely sure the garden room was PD to start with.
    Was built already when I bought it and it came with a indemnity policy, no PP. I can only assume is a PD.

    How was a bathroom and kitchenette built without building regs? Was this possible?
  • Archishard
    Archishard Posts: 9 Forumite
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    I have a permitted development, garden room. 
    • The space is only for recreational use
    • It has a bathroom and kitchenette
    I now want to make it as habitable space.
    I am confused if I should apply for Planning permission or ask for change of use?

    Many thanks
    Does the garden room meet building regulations for habitation?
    I can assume it does, dimensions and plumbing is all ok.
  • Archishard
    Archishard Posts: 9 Forumite
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    FreeBear said:
    Section62 said:
    I have a permitted development, garden room. 
    • The space is only for recreational use
    • It has a bathroom and kitchenette
    I now want to make it as habitable space.
    I am confused if I should apply for Planning permission or ask for change of use?

    Many thanks
    Change of use is a form of planning consent.  You would apply for consent to use the garden room as habitable accommodation rather than as an outbuilding ancillary to the dwelling. You may have problems if the council think it might be used as a separate dwelling rather than as a (detached) extension.

    You'll also need to comply with building regs... which could get expensive depending on the quality of the original construction.

    Before starting the process you need to be absolutely sure the garden room was PD to start with.
    With a bathroom and kitchen area, it sounds like self contained accommodation already. Doubt very much that it would have been permitted development if constructed with those facilities from the outset.

    No PP, the previous owner bought an indemnity policy per the outbuilding before selling the house.
    Do you think I have a problem in my hands?
    Thanks
  • BarelySentientAI
    BarelySentientAI Posts: 2,448 Forumite
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    Section62 said:
    I have a permitted development, garden room. 
    • The space is only for recreational use
    • It has a bathroom and kitchenette
    I now want to make it as habitable space.
    I am confused if I should apply for Planning permission or ask for change of use?

    Many thanks
    Change of use is a form of planning consent.  You would apply for consent to use the garden room as habitable accommodation rather than as an outbuilding ancillary to the dwelling. You may have problems if the council think it might be used as a separate dwelling rather than as a (detached) extension.

    You'll also need to comply with building regs... which could get expensive depending on the quality of the original construction.

    Before starting the process you need to be absolutely sure the garden room was PD to start with.
    Was built already when I bought it and it came with a indemnity policy, no PP. I can only assume is a PD.

    How was a bathroom and kitchenette built without building regs? Was this possible?
    No PP and no BR - I wouldn't be assuming that it's PD at all, I'd be leaning towards under-the-radar dodge.
  • FreeBear
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    FreeBear said:
    Section62 said:
    I have a permitted development, garden room. 
    • The space is only for recreational use
    • It has a bathroom and kitchenette
    I now want to make it as habitable space.
    I am confused if I should apply for Planning permission or ask for change of use?

    Many thanks
    Change of use is a form of planning consent.  You would apply for consent to use the garden room as habitable accommodation rather than as an outbuilding ancillary to the dwelling. You may have problems if the council think it might be used as a separate dwelling rather than as a (detached) extension.

    You'll also need to comply with building regs... which could get expensive depending on the quality of the original construction.

    Before starting the process you need to be absolutely sure the garden room was PD to start with.
    With a bathroom and kitchen area, it sounds like self contained accommodation already. Doubt very much that it would have been permitted development if constructed with those facilities from the outset.

    No PP, the previous owner bought an indemnity policy per the outbuilding before selling the house.
    Do you think I have a problem in my hands?
    Thanks
    As a self contained accommodation unit, you might find it subject to its own council tax banding. So yes, you do have a problem on your hands. Indemnity insurance isn't going to protect you from CTX, especially if they decide to back date it.
    Any language construct that forces such insanity in this case should be abandoned without regrets. –
    Erik Aronesty, 2014

    Treasure the moments that you have. Savour them for as long as you can for they will never come back again.
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