How much postcrete per swing leg?

blackstar

Hi allwe have these swings for our children and wondering how much poatcrete per swing leg hole do people recommend?
I'm thinking 2 x 20kg bags of postcrete for a 1m hole? Or just 1 x 20kg of postcrete for a 1 metre hole?

https://specialneedstoys.com/vestibular/single-swing-frame/single-swing-frame.html

Rodders53

Ask the manufacturer/supplier... but as I read that web page it mentions 

The Single Swing Frame comes with hooked stakes to pin the frame to the ground and 1 pair of suspension brackets.

and that suggests, to me, the legs aren't intended (nor will be long enough) to be sunk into the ground, directly ??

stuart45

If you read the comments below some people are describing concreting the spikes into the holes dug as per instructions.
You don't have to use expensive Postcrete for fixing posts into the ground. Ordinary concrete is much cheaper and stronger. The only advantage of Postcrete is the speed of its initial and final set and hardening rate.

FreeBear

An alternative to concreting anchors or posts in is to use ground screws.

Sounds and looks like an April Fool's joke, but they are real.. Probably a bit over the top for a swing. These would be more suitable - https://www.junglegym.co.uk/ground-anchor-kit-4-pcs

The advantage of a screw-in anchor is they can be easily removed, and you are not left with a big heavy lump of concrete to dispose of. Also handy if you want to put the swing in another part of the garden.

Eldi_Dos

You can get heavy duty plastic bags with pre mixed concrete in, the bag has a nozzle which you pour recommended amount of water in put plug in noozle and mix all together. Then easy job to take out plug and pour mix into hole.
Not the cheapest way to do it but for a one off diy job its convenient, no tools required or cleaning out buckets afterwards

blackstar

Thanks I have found a company who will do this but they said that they won't use the swing anchors but will use post crete and set that around the frame. But sounds like some others  have read on the comments not to do it that way?

stuart45

blackstar said:

Thanks I have found a company who will do this but they said that they won't use the swing anchors but will use post crete and set that around the frame. But sounds like some others  have read on the comments not to do it that way?

I wouldn't go with that idea. The swing would be set down much lower, and would be harder to remove. 
I'd dig out he holes, set the swing in place and attach the anchors and concrete them in. Have the concrete low enough for the top of the anchor to be below ground level, so it can be covered with the lawn.

blackstar

stuart45 said:

blackstar said:

Thanks I have found a company who will do this but they said that they won't use the swing anchors but will use post crete and set that around the frame. But sounds like some others  have read on the comments not to do it that way?

I wouldn't go with that idea. The swing would be set down much lower, and would be harder to remove. 
I'd dig out he holes, set the swing in place and attach the anchors and concrete them in. Have the concrete low enough for the top of the anchor to be below ground level, so it can be covered with the lawn.

Thanks I was asking about this with the company and they said 

"Ground screws are not meant to be concreted in. Where are you reading this. I've been in building trade for 24 years. I build garden rooms, full structures and either the sub frame is concreted in or ground screws. Ground screws will never take to postcrete as someone would need to sit and hold it till the postcrete sets and also as it's so so small it would just come loose. So it would either be postcrete or the groundscrew. Also, the swing frame is an A-Frame for a reason. The wide footprint of the frame and the downwards force means the swing cannot move. If your wanting someone to install the groundscrews and concrete I'm afraid you'll need to get someone else as I can't sit and hold individual groundscrews in postcrete till it sets"

What are peoples thoughts ? 

BarelySentientAI

blackstar said:

stuart45 said:

blackstar said:

Thanks I have found a company who will do this but they said that they won't use the swing anchors but will use post crete and set that around the frame. But sounds like some others  have read on the comments not to do it that way?

I wouldn't go with that idea. The swing would be set down much lower, and would be harder to remove. 
I'd dig out he holes, set the swing in place and attach the anchors and concrete them in. Have the concrete low enough for the top of the anchor to be below ground level, so it can be covered with the lawn.

Thanks I was asking about this with the company and they said 

"Ground screws are not meant to be concreted in. Where are you reading this. I've been in building trade for 24 years. I build garden rooms, full structures and either the sub frame is concreted in or ground screws. Ground screws will never take to postcrete as someone would need to sit and hold it till the postcrete sets and also as it's so so small it would just come loose. So it would either be postcrete or the groundscrew. Also, the swing frame is an A-Frame for a reason. The wide footprint of the frame and the downwards force means the swing cannot move. If your wanting someone to install the groundscrews and concrete I'm afraid you'll need to get someone else as I can't sit and hold individual groundscrews in postcrete till it sets"

What are peoples thoughts ? 

They're right.  You wouldn't concrete in a ground screw.

kipsterno1

I wouldn't fix it in the ground permanently, in fact I didn't when we had one years ago. The provided spikes should hold it firm on good ground. You will want to move it when mowing the grass and if left in one place will really mess up the grass below it.

DRP

blackstar said:

stuart45 said:

blackstar said:

Thanks I have found a company who will do this but they said that they won't use the swing anchors but will use post crete and set that around the frame. But sounds like some others  have read on the comments not to do it that way?

I wouldn't go with that idea. The swing would be set down much lower, and would be harder to remove. 
I'd dig out he holes, set the swing in place and attach the anchors and concrete them in. Have the concrete low enough for the top of the anchor to be below ground level, so it can be covered with the lawn.

Thanks I was asking about this with the company and they said 

"Ground screws are not meant to be concreted in. Where are you reading this. I've been in building trade for 24 years. I build garden rooms, full structures and either the sub frame is concreted in or ground screws. Ground screws will never take to postcrete as someone would need to sit and hold it till the postcrete sets and also as it's so so small it would just come loose. So it would either be postcrete or the groundscrew. Also, the swing frame is an A-Frame for a reason. The wide footprint of the frame and the downwards force means the swing cannot move. If your wanting someone to install the groundscrews and concrete I'm afraid you'll need to get someone else as I can't sit and hold individual groundscrews in postcrete till it sets"

What are peoples thoughts ? 

My thoughts are he’s got a bit of a bad attitude.