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Giraffe76
Giraffe76 Posts: 174 Forumite
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Hi all,
We are low energy users, are currently with octopus and have seen the EDF fixed tariff details via an email through uSwitch so I did a comparison on their site (including my last 12 month usage) and found that EDF would be cheaper by only £19 for the year but what shocked me is that their projected monthly payments would be just over £69 per month whereas with octopus we are paying £100.
We were £149 in credit with octopus which I have requested to be refunded but I'm curious why there's such a big difference in the octopus payments and the EDF payment?

Any clarification would be appreciated

Kind regards Mark 

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  • Netexporter
    Netexporter Posts: 1,294 Forumite
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    You can change your Octopus DD amount online, with a couple of clicks, to manage your debit/credit level.
  • CouldntResist
    CouldntResist Posts: 96 Forumite
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    edited 3 May at 2:44PM
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    Giraffe76 said:
    Hi all,
    We are low energy users, are currently with octopus and have seen the EDF fixed tariff details via an email through uSwitch so I did a comparison on their site (including my last 12 month usage) and found that EDF would be cheaper by only £19 for the year but what shocked me is that their projected monthly payments would be just over £69 per month whereas with octopus we are paying £100.
    We were £149 in credit with octopus which I have requested to be refunded but I'm curious why there's such a big difference in the octopus payments and the EDF payment?

    Any clarification would be appreciated

    Kind regards Mark 
    How would you imagine that EDF could only be £19 a year cheaper but have £31/month less payment? What was the projection for Octopus on the same comparison?
  • Slinky
    Slinky Posts: 10,042 Forumite
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    IME DD payments are a bit of a 'finger in the air' exercise. I'm currently £260 in credit after the April bill, and they are recommending the DD to be £133.09. I've currently reduced it to £20 because we have solar and last month's bill was under a tenner.  I'll increase it later in the year, but we've used nowhere near £133.09 in any month since moving to them last July, when initially they were taking £165. That at least was closer than EDF's £210.
    Make £2024 in 2024
    Prolific to 29/2/24 £184.97, Chase Interest £11.88, Chase roundup interest £0.18, Chase CB £16.96, Roadkill £1.10, Octopus referral reward £50, Octopoints £6.30 to 31/1/24, Topcashback £4.64, Shopmium £3
    Total £279.03/£2024  13.8%

    Make £2023 in 2023
    Water sewerage refund: £170.62,Topcashback: £243.47, Prolific: to 31/12/23 £975, Haggling: £45, Wombling(Roadkill): £6.04,  Chase CB £149.34, Chase roundup interest £1.35, WeBuyBooks:£8.37, Misc sales: £406.59, Delay repay £22, Amazon refund £3.41, EDF Smart Meter incentive £100, Santander Edge Cashback-Fees: £25.14, Octopus Reward £50, Bank transfer incentives £400
    Total: £2606.33/£2023  128.8%

  • Scot_39
    Scot_39 Posts: 1,917 Forumite
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    Assuming Octopus bills covers any heating, being in credit at the end of Apr by say 1months bill if genuinely low user  is probably a sign your paying too much.

    But bear in mind this winter has been damp but relatively warm - at least here in EM  - so some months my energy use has been much lower than previous 5 year average - in Mar used 40% less on room heating than last year etc.  And many people don't track kWh usage and only remember ££s costs.

    Do a simple calc of costs based on that 12 m usage data at current Octopus rates - they used to discount a few % - 2% per fuel SC iirc -  so should be a little cheaper on svt.

    Then divide it by 12.

    If they won't refund the £149, subtract it from the projected cost, then divide it by 12 - or simply subtract c£12 from above figure.

    And set the DD accordingly.
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