help with tax please

patsy43

state pension paid 369.95 on the 17th of April then 387.52  till the 1st April total 9688 for 25 payments i get paid every 2 weeks so total all to gather 10057.95 dwp have told the tax office 10076 ware dose the difference come from thank hope this makes sence

Hoenir

HMRC use figures provided by DWP  There's no need to inform them. 

patsy43

Hoenir said:

HMRC use figures provided by DWP  There's no need to inform them. 

yes but they have informed tax office 10076 the figers dot match 

Phoenix72

You are paid state pension in arrears but taxed on what you should have received on a weekly basis.

Does 1 week at the old rate and 51 weeks at the new rate come close to HMRC's figure?

la531983

Did you not ask this recently, and you were told the answer, and you acknowledged this?

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6520099/tax#latest

patsy43

la531983 said:

Did you not ask this recently, and you were told the answer, and you acknowledged this?

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6520099/tax#latest

no that was my tax this is my husbands i know they is only a lettle diffarence but last year the diffarence was 46.00 pounds so its add in up 

p00hsticks

patsy43 said:

la531983 said:

Did you not ask this recently, and you were told the answer, and you acknowledged this?

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6520099/tax#latest

no that was my tax this is my husbands i know they is only a lettle diffarence but last year the diffarence was 46.00 pounds so its add in up 

The principle is the same though - legislation says that DWP must tell HMRC how much State Pension you were entitled to in the tax year - usually one week at the old (start of the year) rate and 51 weeks at the new rate. 

As most are paid four-weekly in arrears, that's almost always not the same as what you were actually paid over the same time-frame....

Dazed_and_C0nfused

patsy43 said:

state pension paid 369.95 on the 17th of April then 387.52  till the 1st April total 9688 for 25 payments i get paid every 2 weeks so total all to gather 10057.95 dwp have told the tax office 10076 ware dose the difference come from thank hope this makes sence

DWP don't tell HMRC an annual figure, just a weekly one.

And 52 x £193.76 = £10075.52 so £10076 does seem £1 more than would be expected.

But 52 x the new rate is possible in some instances (as 6 April fell on a Saturday this year).

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/paye-manual/paye76030

patsy43

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

patsy43 said:

state pension paid 369.95 on the 17th of April then 387.52  till the 1st April total 9688 for 25 payments i get paid every 2 weeks so total all to gather 10057.95 dwp have told the tax office 10076 ware dose the difference come from thank hope this makes sence

DWP don't tell HMRC an annual figure, just a weekly one.

And 52 x £193.76 = £10075.52 so £10076 does seem £1 more than would be expected.

But 52 x the new rate is possible in some instances (as 6 April fell on a Saturday this year).

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/paye-manual/paye76030

but should  1 week be at old rate 

Dazed_and_C0nfused

patsy43 said:

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

patsy43 said:

state pension paid 369.95 on the 17th of April then 387.52  till the 1st April total 9688 for 25 payments i get paid every 2 weeks so total all to gather 10057.95 dwp have told the tax office 10076 ware dose the difference come from thank hope this makes sence

DWP don't tell HMRC an annual figure, just a weekly one.

And 52 x £193.76 = £10075.52 so £10076 does seem £1 more than would be expected.

But 52 x the new rate is possible in some instances (as 6 April fell on a Saturday this year).

https://www.gov.uk/hmrc-internal-manuals/paye-manual/paye76030

but should  1 week be at old rate 

Not in all situations,

SPA is before 6 April 2010

Where the individual reached their state pension age prior to 6 April 2010, DWP make payments of state pensions on a fixed payday. State pension is paid on a Monday, except for widow beneficiaries who receive their pension on a Tuesday.

As a result the Uprating Service will calculate the CY+1 coding deduction according to the day on which 6 April falls. This is because where 6 April falls on a week day after the Monday, these pensioners will only receive the new rate of state pension for 51 weeks.

The Uprating Service will therefore use the calculations below to calculate the annual amount to be included in the code

In years when 6 April falls on a Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday or Friday the Uprating Service calculates the coding deduction at 1 week at the old rate and 51 weeks at the new rate

In years when 6 April falls on a Saturday, Sunday or Monday, the Uprating Service calculates the coding deduction at 52 times the new rate