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County Court letter - parked outside marked bay

Hello All, I've recieved a letter from the County court to pay a fine for which I was parked outside of the marked bay in a retail park car park. It was a completely empty car park on a weekday afternoon- and I simply parked up to collect an item within 5mins and left. I initially appealed the PCN, but was rejected. I received several debt recovery letters whilst I was on holidays, and have now received the County court letter.

Do I have any grounds to defend, or should I cut my losses and pay the fine. Images of the form and initial PCN notice attached.

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  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    Hello and welcome.

    What is the Issue Date on your Claim Form?

    Have you filed an Acknowledgment of Service?
    If so, upon what date did you do so?
    Your MCOL Claim History will have the definitive answer to that.
  • Hi Keith, 03rd April 2023 was the issue date.

    Yes, I filed an AoS on the 15th April.
  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,296 Forumite
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    edited 17 April 2024 at 10:44PM
    Hi Keith, 03rd April 2023 was the issue date.

    Yes, I filed an AoS on the 15th April.
    I am going to assume, and hope, you mean 03rd April 2024 was the issue date.   ;)

    With a Claim Issue Date of 3rd April, and having filed an Acknowledgment of Service in a timely manner, you have until 4pm on Tuesday 7th May 2024 to file your Defence.

    That's nearly three weeks away. Plenty of time to produce a Defence but please don't leave it to the last minute.
    To create a Defence, and then file a Defence by email, look at the second post in the NEWBIES thread.
    Don't miss the deadline for filing a Defence.

    Do not try and file a Defence via the MoneyClaimOnline website. Once an Acknowledgment of Service has been filed, the MCOL website should be treated as 'read only'.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,195 Forumite
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    edited 18 April 2024 at 12:18AM
    You don't have a fine and almost certainly won't be paying a penny. It's an invoice and even if they take it all the way to a hearing and you lost, you'd pay LESS than the claim.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • fisherjim
    fisherjim Posts: 7,111 Forumite
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    That useless grainy photo doesn't prove anything, where are the bays anyway, surely they have more evidence that that?
  • nopcns
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    It's a DCB Legal claim so you won't pay anything as long as you follow the steps as advised in the Newbies/FAQ thread and the template defence thread. Follow these steps and you will see you username in lights in this thread in 3-6 months down the line:

    DCB LEGAL RECORD OF PRIVATE PARKING COURT CLAIM DISCONTINUATIONS

  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,195 Forumite
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    Heads up to @Umkomaas there are two more to add this week: usernames start with cheme and Belly something!
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,375 Forumite
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    Heads up to @Umkomaas there are two more to add this week: usernames start with cheme and Belly something!
    @Coupon-mad, notifications still jittery ..... anyway, found both, and both now included in the disco thread. Thanks for nudge. 👍
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • I had made an appeal when I first received the PCN, which I can't recall what was written at the time, will they have access to this?
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 161,195 Forumite
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    Yes.        
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
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