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G24 Parking - Leaving site - What proof ?



Any advice on Parking ticket which arrived this morning at a friends house .. 
 
I have read the newbies thread and  advised them to contact the management company of the parking area to get it cancelled ( they have a receipt from a shop at the retail park on the same day) but just wondering what proof g24 would they actually have.

On the actual notice which came through the post , there are two photos of the car with times about 10 seconds apart but nothing else ,  what does it actually prove ?

No ticket was left on the car but the photos look like they were done in person rather than camera so would they have a physical warden patrolling the area  who spotted the driver leaving the area ? 

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  • Umkomaas
    Umkomaas Posts: 44,309 Forumite
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    Check the G24 website for any other photos they have of the incident. No 'leaving the site' charge gets anywhere, provided the motorist is robust. No caving and paying to make it go away. 

    Have you read this case?  A little old, but an amusing read, some of the points that applied then have been overtaken as time has progressed.  No court case has been attempted since then, to general knowledge and understanding. 

    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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  • Grizebeck
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    It can even be won at the IAS
  • Umkomaas
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    Grizebeck said:
    It can even be won at the IAS
    Agree, worth a punt, putting G24 to strict proof of their accusation. But don't be dismayed if, even without strict proof, they side with their paymasters. But, no paying, remember!
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • Shaps
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    edited 20 April 2024 at 12:11PM
    Umkomaas said:
    Check the G24 website for any other photos they have of the incident. No 'leaving the site' charge gets anywhere, provided the motorist is robust. No caving and paying to make it go away. 

    Have you read this case?  A little old, but an amusing read, some of the points that applied then have been overtaken as time has progressed.  No court case has been attempted since then, to general knowledge and understanding. 

    Tried the link for at the pepipoo.com website but it seems that it is down . 

    A quick questions about the dates  ,if the issue date stamped on the letter is 17 days after the photo was taken of the car and it then it  arrives 25 days after the alleged incident would this make it void  ? The letter does not mention  POFA but does data protection ... a bit confused online as some say the notice should be given within 14 days while others 28 ?

    Would this be enough to get the notice cancelled ?
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 20 April 2024 at 11:44AM
    Easily winnable on the above two points, even at the IAS. As long as you don't blab who was driving.

    POFA is explained and linked in the NEWBIES thread and there are no conflicting posts in this forum.  No-one says 28 days.
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  • ivanleo
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    Shaps said:
    Tried the link for at the pepipoo.com website but it seems that it is down . 
    A replacement forum has been set up at https://ftla.uk
  • Umkomaas
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    ivanleo said:
    Shaps said:
    Tried the link for at the pepipoo.com website but it seems that it is down . 
    A replacement forum has been set up at https://ftla.uk
    It was the VCS v Ibbotson transcript that was linked via PePiPoo; I'm pretty sure FTLA won't cover it.  Tried a quick Google search for it, but drew a blank. Not hugely important now. 
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

    Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day; show him how to catch fish, and you feed him for a lifetime.

    #Private Parking Firms - Killing the High Street
  • patient_dream
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    DAFT G24 ....  WALKING AWAY FROM A PARKED CAR has nothing to do with PARKING .... unless the car park is a prison

    G24 are copying the rubbish of UKPC
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 27 April 2024 at 1:09PM
    But it's not a landmark case and should not be used.

    Like loads of these old cases they should be consigned to history.  I don't know how people this week found that case and ParkingEye v Cargius, neither of which are of much use years later, if they were at all.
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