Bus pass petition...

Sarahspangles

Exodi said:

How many times are (mostly) retired people going on domestic holidays within the UK (but outside of their respective home country) and simultaneously utilising local bus services while away. I'd wager most people could count this on one hand.

The benefit/cost we are talking about is probably less than £100 across a persons lifetime (of course I'm sure there's outliers who have family/friends in Wales (for example) so often travel back and forth of whom this would be a great benefit to).

Maybe I'll think it is a more serious issue when I reach my 60's, who knows.

So far this year we’ve had a day in Manchester using trams, and a weekend in London travelling in by train and then using the tube. OH is over 60 and would have saved £7.30 and 2 x £8.10. It does add up.

Free local travel might swing the decision for us between driving to a city break, taking up tarmac and car park spaces, versus using the train. Integrated bus/tram/tube systems around cities are great, not least because I then don’t have to be designated driver!  I don’t think we’d use rural buses, as for that sort of break OH would want his bike which means the car with roof bars.

Eldi_Dos

The real benefit of a bus pass isn't really financial more that it keeps people mobile and engaged.Lots of local business's, coffee shops and restaurants get a boost to their sales through people using their pass.Myself I would never think of taking my car into a city centre now,use the park and ride and pass to get you into the city centre.It would go against the grain looking for parking and paying for it now.

The large park and ride near us is used by many people going on holiday, leave car there for free and bus pass to airport.

BlackKnightMonty

rebs said:

westv said:

poseidon1 said:

35har1old said:

smudger1964 said:

maman said:

westv said:

I'm a bit confused at to what the petition is about. 

At the moment, despite free bus passes being issued in all 4 countries and TfL, they aren't interchangeable.

 So if, for example, an English resident goes to Wales on holiday they can't use their free bus pass.

The petition calls for the bus pass to be valid across the UK. 

I misunderstood then I thought it was about people over 60 being able to get bus passes in England like they get them in Wales,Scotland and London.So making everyone in the UK equal

In NI you get you bus and train pass at 60 and when you reach 65 your are then entitled to travel all Ireland bus and rail

Same in London (60plus oyster). However freedom pass now linked to your normal retirement age ( currently 66 or 67).

What's the difference between the two?

The over 60 oyster has a nominal cost - initially £20 then £10 annually to renew.  Freedom pass is free.

Free to whom?

westv

BlackKnightMonty said:

rebs said:

westv said:

poseidon1 said:

35har1old said:

smudger1964 said:

maman said:

westv said:

I'm a bit confused at to what the petition is about. 

At the moment, despite free bus passes being issued in all 4 countries and TfL, they aren't interchangeable.

 So if, for example, an English resident goes to Wales on holiday they can't use their free bus pass.

The petition calls for the bus pass to be valid across the UK. 

I misunderstood then I thought it was about people over 60 being able to get bus passes in England like they get them in Wales,Scotland and London.So making everyone in the UK equal

In NI you get you bus and train pass at 60 and when you reach 65 your are then entitled to travel all Ireland bus and rail

Same in London (60plus oyster). However freedom pass now linked to your normal retirement age ( currently 66 or 67).

What's the difference between the two?

The over 60 oyster has a nominal cost - initially £20 then £10 annually to renew.  Freedom pass is free.

Free to whom?

Anyone living in London over state pension age.

LHW99

Eldi_Dos said:

The large park and ride near us is used by many people going on holiday, leave car there for free and bus pass to airport.

Interesting - most of the Park & Rides I have used seem not to allow overnight parking, so presumably that's not always the case?

BlackKnightMonty

westv said:

BlackKnightMonty said:

rebs said:

westv said:

poseidon1 said:

35har1old said:

smudger1964 said:

maman said:

westv said:

I'm a bit confused at to what the petition is about. 

At the moment, despite free bus passes being issued in all 4 countries and TfL, they aren't interchangeable.

 So if, for example, an English resident goes to Wales on holiday they can't use their free bus pass.

The petition calls for the bus pass to be valid across the UK. 

I misunderstood then I thought it was about people over 60 being able to get bus passes in England like they get them in Wales,Scotland and London.So making everyone in the UK equal

In NI you get you bus and train pass at 60 and when you reach 65 your are then entitled to travel all Ireland bus and rail

Same in London (60plus oyster). However freedom pass now linked to your normal retirement age ( currently 66 or 67).

What's the difference between the two?

The over 60 oyster has a nominal cost - initially £20 then £10 annually to renew.  Freedom pass is free.

Free to whom?

Anyone living in London over state pension age.

Someone pays for it though; don’t they?

Eldi_Dos

LHW99 said:

Eldi_Dos said:

The large park and ride near us is used by many people going on holiday, leave car there for free and bus pass to airport.

Interesting - most of the Park & Rides I have used seem not to allow overnight parking, so presumably that's not always the case?

I checked it was still the case before I posted and there is no limit, although I have a vague recollection that they may impose one round festival time.

MetaPhysical

IMHO, state retirement age to get the bus pass is quite reasonable.

Ganga

BlackKnightMonty said:

westv said:

BlackKnightMonty said:

rebs said:

westv said:

poseidon1 said:

35har1old said:

smudger1964 said:

maman said:

westv said:

I'm a bit confused at to what the petition is about. 

At the moment, despite free bus passes being issued in all 4 countries and TfL, they aren't interchangeable.

 So if, for example, an English resident goes to Wales on holiday they can't use their free bus pass.

The petition calls for the bus pass to be valid across the UK. 

I misunderstood then I thought it was about people over 60 being able to get bus passes in England like they get them in Wales,Scotland and London.So making everyone in the UK equal

In NI you get you bus and train pass at 60 and when you reach 65 your are then entitled to travel all Ireland bus and rail

Same in London (60plus oyster). However freedom pass now linked to your normal retirement age ( currently 66 or 67).

What's the difference between the two?

The over 60 oyster has a nominal cost - initially £20 then £10 annually to renew.  Freedom pass is free.

Free to whom?

Anyone living in London over state pension age.

Someone pays for it though; don’t they?

of course they do either local gov or central gov ,like most things subsidised ,free prescriptions etc.

zagubov

Most of the locations for free 60+ travel are devolved nations and regions like Scotland, Wales, NI and Greater London.
Other devolved city regions in England could presumably do this to - Liverpool already does.
https://www.merseytravel.gov.uk/tickets-and-pricing/over-60s/