Securing small bit of guttering

tony3619

So a few weeks ago I had to secure this piece of guttering over a balcony drip edge because of constant water flowing over the edge, running down the wall and leaking onto the ceiling in the room below. 

In the heat of the moment I had to secure it with string attach to the balcony rail as seen in the photo. 

I dont really want to screw this Into the brickwork but obviously it can't stay like this.

Because of the small size of it and the fact it's only catching water from a very small edge of about 1m x 2 m is there any grab adhesive or sealant that would hold the clips in place? Or is this non starter? 

Mr.Generous

They would hold, but not for long. Couple of screw per bracket, job done.

tony3619

Mr.Generous said:

They would hold, but not for long. Couple of screw per bracket, job done.

So you dont think if I put 4 brackets with a grab adhesive or a sealant it would last? Basically it's fine with string until the wind blows it above 30mph from underneath.... Then it lifts upwards. It's a short term solution until I can address the roof pitch to stop the water running over the edge.

I was thinking with enough brackets  the sealant would hold for such a small piece of guttering and minimal water 

flashg67

I reckon you'd need a bigger surface area to stick to than just a bracket. A larger piece of wood/plank  secured to the brickwork with no nails with the bracket screwed to the wood might work.....or it might not!

tony3619

flashg67 said:

I reckon you'd need a bigger surface area to stick to than just a bracket. A larger piece of wood/plank  secured to the brickwork with no nails with the bracket screwed to the wood might work.....or it might not!

Yes I did think this...but was hoping by using more brackets it would spread the weight more.

I might give it a go and see what happens. If It fails and I have to screw it into the brick then I'll do it. Just don't like screwing into brick incase of cracks etc  and it's only for a short time until I sort the roof

FreeBear

tony3619 said: I might give it a go and see what happens. If It fails and I have to screw it into the brick then I'll do it. Just don't like screwing into brick incase of cracks etc  and it's only for a short time until I sort the roof

Put the screws in to the mortar joints rather than the bricks. If the brackets are ever removed permanently, the mortar joints can be repointed, and you'd never know holes had been drilled. Grab adhesive won't work, and it would leave a mess on the bricks.

Eldi_Dos

If it is only a short time till you have the roof done, get a piece of timber (fence post) and strap to bottom of railings and fit some J brackets to wood so that they support gutter, may need to bend bracket a bit.
Will not look very pretty or professional but it is only a stop gap till main work is carried out.

Murmansk

As others have said, DON'T use No More Nails. Screw the proper gutter support brackets into the vertical mortar joints and when it's no longer needed take out the screws and put a bit of mortar in the screw holes.

tony3619

Murmansk said:

As others have said, DON'T use No More Nails. Screw the proper gutter support brackets into the vertical mortar joints and when it's no longer needed take out the screws and put a bit of mortar in the screw holes.

I've decided to do as you suggested, would I use wall plugs in the mortar? (Which ones?) Or just screw directly into the mortar? 

FreeBear

https://www.bmstores.co.uk/products/rawlplug-uno-universal-30mm-wall-plug-96pk-309373 (or £3.05 from Screwfix)

If you have very thin mortar joints, use the red plugs.