[answered] Is HMRC issuing PAYE Coding Notice (P2) docs anymore?

phonek

EDIT: ANSWERED by user kuratowski here: https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80646533/#Comment_80646533 
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Been getting a PAYE Coding Notice (aka P2) each February for decades (in post originally, then via online PDFs). Yet when logging into HMRC online, I cannot for the life of me see where the heck they are anymore. 

I see it says "...on a 'Tax Code Notice' letter from HMRC if you get one" (see screen shot below). 


Q: Have HMRC stopped issuing these to many people now or something?

As they haven't provide any info about it if so, I'm left none the wiser on what's going on here. 

Does anyone know? 
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eskbanker

phonek said:

Been getting a "PAYE Coding Notice" (aka P2) each February for decades (in post originally, then via online PDFs). Yet when logging into HMRC online, I cannot for the life of me see where the heck they are anymore.

If you've been receiving these via online PDFs and have the ability to log into HMRC online (as opposed to simply reading public pages on their open website), you should be able to access all you need via your online tax account, i.e. the first of those four options listed.

phonek

eskbanker said:

phonek said:

Been getting a "PAYE Coding Notice" (aka P2) each February for decades (in post originally, then via online PDFs). Yet when logging into HMRC online, I cannot for the life of me see where the heck they are anymore.

If you've been receiving these via online PDFs and have the ability to log into HMRC online (as opposed to simply reading public pages on their open website), you should be able to access all you need via your online tax account, i.e. the first of those four options listed.

No it's not there anymore, that's the point. 
While logged-in, I've clicked around all over the bloomin' place, and cannot see these P2's ANYWHERE?! 

I've filed tax returns for years online, so have used the website a lot. So if I can't find them, I doubt anyone else can. And as usual with HMRC, they're completely opaque about who currently does and doesn't get P2's? 

Hoenir

There's no p2's online. Why should there be ? 

phonek

Hoenir said:

There's no p2's online. Why should there be ? 

Yes, they've been on there a number of years. HMRC auto-email you to login and download it.
(As I wrote in my original post: "...in post originally, then via online PDFs".) 

jimmo

Log into your Personal Tax Account.
Click "PAYE".
Check Next Tax Year.

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Dazed_and_C0nfused

Q: Have HMRC stopped issuing these to many people now or something?

Yes.  But that happened a few years ago.

They still issue lots but millions of people don't need one, often where they are on the emergency code (1257L) and that just rolls forward to the nest tax year.

phonek

jimmo said:

Log into your Personal Tax Account.
Click "PAYE".
Check Next Tax Year.

No, there are no P2 docs there. 

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Q: Have HMRC stopped issuing these to many people now or something?

Yes.  But that happened a few years ago.

They still issue lots but millions of people don't need one, often where they are on the emergency code (1257L) and that just rolls forward to the nest tax year.

It didn't happen for me, as I literally downloaded one just last year in Feb 2023 for the 2023-24 year.
(I have P2's saved all the way back until the 2004-05 year; 20 years worth.) And no, not on emergency code either. 

jimmo

phonek said:

jimmo said:

Log into your Personal Tax Account.
Click "PAYE".
Check Next Tax Year.

No, there are no P2 docs are there. 

Dazed_and_C0nfused said:

Q: Have HMRC stopped issuing these to many people now or something?

Yes.  But that happened a few years ago.

They still issue lots but millions of people don't need one, often where they are on the emergency code (1257L) and that just rolls forward to the nest tax year.

No, but all the information you need about how your coding is made up is there.

phonek

jimmo said:

phonek said:

jimmo said:

Log into your Personal Tax Account.
Click "PAYE".
Check Next Tax Year.

No, there are no P2 docs are there. 

No, but all the information you need about how your coding is made up is there.

But it's not a downloadable P2 pdf document, just a screen comparing last years figures with this years. 
Not the same thing at all. 

phonek

What's annoying, is that HMRC don't bother to advise people of changes to expected documents they've dealt with for decades. They just don't issue said expected document, then assume people are going to magically understand why they haven't. Or they hide them away somewhere else deep on the website. 

If the P2 has actually been withdrawn as a document, and we are expected to now use this completely different website screen for this info (meaning if we want our own offline copy, we have to save the screen as a much longer and more convoluted PDF!), then why not actually advise people who have always had a P2 of such a thing? HMRC being bloody annoying, as usual.