Avios to Nectar conversion changing

WillPS

Gandalf644 said:

steven141 said:

Does anyone know where to convert the Avios to Nectar I'm struggling to find it on the Avios app

It is In the nectar app.

You can do the exchange either way there.

You can only convert Nectar to Avios from the Nectar app, I think?

You have to go to BA Exec Club - they keep hiding it but if you login and then search Nectar you should find it.

steven141

Thanks both I'll give it a try.

steven141

It turns out I already had it set up. They seem to be moving to a new Avios website soon.

steven141

If you have the Barclaycard Avios card is the Nectar conversion worth more than buying flights with the Avios points?

WillPS

steven141 said:

If you have the Barclaycard Avios card is the Nectar conversion worth more than buying flights with the Avios points?

"It depends" is the only possible answer.

The best value (in terms of value of Avios vs cash ticket price) will be on higher class redemptions - two or three pence per Avios is possible with these if you can get em. For some routes that means booking at midnight a full year before you fly, such is the scarcity of availability.

Economy tickets tend to work out closer to 1p per Avios but there are still rip-offs and outsized value possibilities depending how organised and flexible you can be.

In either case, I'd argue that unless you *actually would pay* the ticket price BA are charging then these are not actual savings. BA is rarely the cheapest option, nor is it the prestige service that it once was. By locking in Avios to use for flights you are saying goodbye to the real moneysaving potential of being able to seek out the best deal across all carriers. It's a big trade off, and it's not talked about enough in the context of collecting airmiles.

Nectar is the absolute opposite to all this. You get exactly 0.5p worth of value out of each Nectar point. That has never changed in the entire history of the scheme (except rare double ups and bargain redemptions, all pretty long in the past now). Spending points is completely frictionless, requires zero forward planning and it's easy to use them for stuff you actually need and probably can't get any cheaper (e.g. petrol/diesel).

(Not to mention far easier to make use of if you don't often fly!)

Remember, you aren't getting something "for free" by getting airmiles on a credit card, you are in fact paying whatever it is you could otherwise earn (in cashback or equivalents on other products). If genuine money saving is the aim, then you need to make sure you genuinely save more than what you could otherwise earn in cash.

steven141

WillPS said:

steven141 said:

If you have the Barclaycard Avios card is the Nectar conversion worth more than buying flights with the Avios points?

"It depends" is the only possible answer.

The best value (in terms of value of Avios vs cash ticket price) will be on higher class redemptions - two or three pence per Avios is possible with these if you can get em. For some routes that means booking at midnight a full year before you fly, such is the scarcity of availability.

Economy tickets tend to work out closer to 1p per Avios but there are still rip-offs and outsized value possibilities depending how organised and flexible you can be.

In either case, I'd argue that unless you *actually would pay* the ticket price BA are charging then these are not actual savings. BA is rarely the cheapest option, nor is it the prestige service that it once was. By locking in Avios to use for flights you are saying goodbye to the real moneysaving potential of being able to seek out the best deal across all carriers. It's a big trade off, and it's not talked about enough in the context of collecting airmiles.

Nectar is the absolute opposite to all this. You get exactly 0.5p worth of value out of each Nectar point. That has never changed in the entire history of the scheme (except rare double ups and bargain redemptions, all pretty long in the past now). Spending points is completely frictionless, requires zero forward planning and it's easy to use them for stuff you actually need and probably can't get any cheaper (e.g. petrol/diesel).

(Not to mention far easier to make use of if you don't often fly!)

Remember, you aren't getting something "for free" by getting airmiles on a credit card, you are in fact paying whatever it is you could otherwise earn (in cashback or equivalents on other products). If genuine money saving is the aim, then you need to make sure you genuinely save more than what you could otherwise earn in cash.

Thanks for explaining this your explanation is really helpful.