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Debt buyers v collectors?

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I have 3 credit card debts managed by debt buyers (Cabot and PRA) and 2 being chased by Opos collecting on behalf of Tesco & Nationwide (both defaulted).

Should both Tesco & Natiownide debts be enforceable, my intention is to make monthly payments and save for f&f offers. When do I start engaging with them? What powers do collectors have? Can they take legal action? Do collectors entertain f&f offers? Do I just sit and wait until they are sold on to a buyer?


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  • fatbelly
    fatbelly Posts: 22,979 Forumite
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    Collectors just work through their standard letters

    If you send an offer to them they will pass it on to the creditor and get back to you.
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,575 Ambassador
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    Collectors have the power to write to you, and ring you up, send you emails and annoying texts, but that`s it, nothing else whatsoever, nothing, nada, zero, zilch.

    They have a certain degree of pre-agreed leeway, but mainly take orders from their client, the debts are only assigned to them equitably, not legally.

    Only the owner of a legally assigned debt can take legal action.

    The rest just pretend they can.
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  • Thank you both. Hypothetically speaking, what's the likelihood of the original creditor taking legal action? Selling to buyers the more likely outcome at some point? 

    I'm trying to decide whether to start engaging with them now, but given they are the original creditor, are they really going to entertain f&f offers? Both defaulted c15 months ago.
  • sourcrates
    sourcrates Posts: 31,575 Ambassador
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    Only lenders who engage in peer to peer lending typically will take legal action as a first response.

    High street lenders much prefer to use the debt collection route instead.

    Best advise if you want to settle for as little as possible, let everything default, let everything get sold on to a 3rd party, pay 3rd party small figure per month for say 8/9 months, usually, depending on the company, offers will start around about that time.

    See what develops from that.
    I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free wannabe, Credit file and ratings, and Bankruptcy and living with it boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.For free non-judgemental debt advice, contact either Stepchange, National Debtline, or CitizensAdviceBureaux.Link to SOA Calculator- https://www.stoozing.com/soa.php The "provit letter" is here-https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/2607247/letter-when-you-know-nothing-about-about-the-debt-aka-prove-it-letter
  • Fantastic,  thanks very much
  • Rob5342
    Rob5342 Posts: 2,420 Forumite
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    edited 24 February 2024 at 8:30AM
    The letters from collectors are often carefully worded to imply impending legal action even though they aren't able to take any. "You have 14 days to reply before we take further recovery action", and then the further recovery action is just another letter offering you a discount.
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