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Hi - this might be a daft question sorry
in our new place there is a large space for flower beds on the side of the garden. At the moment they are empty and filled with rubbish. I am wanting to plant some perennial flower, some conifers for privacy and also maybe a fruit and veg patch. What kind of soil do I need. The area in total is around 50m in length and about 1m wide…..I assume I just can’t walk into Asda and pick up a few bags of compost and need something more substantial…….??
in our new place there is a large space for flower beds on the side of the garden. At the moment they are empty and filled with rubbish. I am wanting to plant some perennial flower, some conifers for privacy and also maybe a fruit and veg patch. What kind of soil do I need. The area in total is around 50m in length and about 1m wide…..I assume I just can’t walk into Asda and pick up a few bags of compost and need something more substantial…….??
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When we put in a raised bed I laid down a few layers of cardboard and then piled compost on top. Maybe you don't want cardboard if you are going to dig through that to plant trees but it would work ok for the veg and flowers. I think the reason for it was to create a bit of a barrier for a year or two to stop weeds coming up but it would eventually decompose."Never retract, never explain, never apologise; get things done and let them howl.”1
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I did some research whe i moved in with only grass,and gravel.
First try a small area, dig up turf and rubish (yes, had all sorts in mine) and knock the soil off the turf. See what it's like.
I found that I had more than enough for beds and the remaining turf went in the compost for the following year.
If you do want to buy in soil then get the soil from a reputable nursery. It's weed free.
You can buy it cheaper from a builders merchant but that hasn't been sterilised so will have weeds. Maybe persistent ones.
I knew and old gardener who used the compost from the recycling centre for new raised beds.
Don't buy the cheapest bagged compost. That I found just dried out and blew away.viral kindness .....kindness is contageous pass it on
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You can buy top soil or compost in bulk bags, normally around a m3 and have it delivered. It depends what you already have what you will need. If you can post a photo and a better description people might be able to help more.2
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Brie said:When we put in a raised bed I laid down a few layers of cardboard and then piled compost on top. Maybe you don't want cardboard if you are going to dig through that to plant trees but it would work ok for the veg and flowers. I think the reason for it was to create a bit of a barrier for a year or two to stop weeds coming up but it would eventually decompose.
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What you want for growing conifers and big shrubs is entirely different from the soil/compost for lettuces and carrots. Base it on compost, and the trees will pull out of the ground and fall over as they grow taller.As someone else has said, it's important to know what you already have, which means clearing the rubbish and digging. It's highly unlikely you'll just have sub-soil, but there might be clay or something similar that just needs improving.“Happiness is not achieved by the conscious pursuit of happiness; it is generally the by-product of other activities.”
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50m in length? wow...If you are going to plant trees, think about the eventual size of them and don't plant too close to your boundary otherwise they'll be hanging over it and annoying the neighbours, who might chop them right back and kill them...Like I did to my neighbour in wales when he planted conifers right next to the iron fence between us. I didn't like him much though.Bulk buying is probably going to be cheaper than a few bags, but plan out where you are going to put things first before expending energy moving the stuff around. Also think about whether a metre strip is going to look like a landing strip or can you change the shape a bit, make some bits bigger, smaller, curvier etc.Shampoo? No thanks, I'll have real poo...4
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In my experience, conifers will suck the moisture out of the surrounding ground - so it will be hard for other plants to grow in their shadow. I second -taff's concerns about conifers.
Other considerations with connifers include the fire risk - their dense, oily, dead growth will quickly combust, perhaps caused by a discarded cigarette or even as a target for arsonists.
An alternative for privacy is pyracantha. It's fast growing, provides colour (green leaves and bright coloured berries) and is forgiving when you need to keep it in trim, i.e. it will grow back when you cut it using loppers or a hedge trimmer. It will also provide habitat for birds.
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Countess823 said:In my experience, conifers will suck the moisture out of the surrounding ground - so it will be hard for other plants to grow in their shadow. I second -taff's concerns about conifers.
Other considerations with connifers include the fire risk - their dense, oily, dead growth will quickly combust, perhaps caused by a discarded cigarette or even as a target for arsonists.
An alternative for privacy is pyracantha. It's fast growing, provides colour (green leaves and bright coloured berries) and is forgiving when you need to keep it in trim, i.e. it will grow back when you cut it using loppers or a hedge trimmer. It will also provide habitat for birds.
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Farway said:Countess823 said:In my experience, conifers will suck the moisture out of the surrounding ground - so it will be hard for other plants to grow in their shadow. I second -taff's concerns about conifers.
Other considerations with connifers include the fire risk - their dense, oily, dead growth will quickly combust, perhaps caused by a discarded cigarette or even as a target for arsonists.
An alternative for privacy is pyracantha. It's fast growing, provides colour (green leaves and bright coloured berries) and is forgiving when you need to keep it in trim, i.e. it will grow back when you cut it using loppers or a hedge trimmer. It will also provide habitat for birds.
So if you plant it just make sure it's where you want it and that you keep on top of trimming so you don't have to risk anything drastic in a few yearsI'm not an early bird or a night owl; I’m some form of permanently exhausted pigeon.4
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