Water heater booster v Economy 7

I regularly go away from home for three-night weekends.

I started out switching off the overnight water heater and using the (Rate 1) booster switch for a minimum of an hour on my return, before reverting to the overnight heater for the remainder of my stay at home. My only fuel is electricity and I am on the BG Standard Variable tariff.

However, my bills have been very nigh - e.g £137 from 3 January - 5 February - and I was probably only there for 20 nights. Even allowing for that being a winter month, we are looking at £2000+ p.a.  

I heard heard booster switches on electric boilers can use 10Kwh.  So more recently I have started leaving the overnight heater on while I am away as the rate 2 price is far lower.

I am wondering which is the cheaper option...three nights of Rate 2 vs one hour of Rate 1?  
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  • QrizB
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    To answer this, we'll have to know the tariff details.
    What do you pay for eack kWh on Rate 1 and Rate 2?
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  • Robin9
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    If you boost the immersion heater for an hour you will use 3 not 10 kWh
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  • Swipe
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    And an immersion heater tank is not to be confused with an electric boiler
  • Have you got a smart meter? Otherwise, you could try reading the meters just before you leave and again as soon as you return and see what the actual usage is
  • dunstonh
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    My gut feeling is that turning off a well lagged tank and then boosting it using peak rates would cost more.

    e.g. 8p off peak is 42p peak.   So, 5 hours on during off peak equates to 1 hour peak.

    Heating a well lagged cylinder that hasn't had any draw may only take 10-20 minutes.  Whereas heating one that has completely cooled over 3 days would take much longer.    So, you are comparing short bursts using off peak rate vs a longer session with peak rates. 
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  • Swipe
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    dunstonh said:
    My gut feeling is that turning off a well lagged tank and then boosting it using peak rates would cost more.

    e.g. 8p off peak is 42p peak.   So, 5 hours on during off peak equates to 1 hour peak.

    Heating a well lagged cylinder that hasn't had any draw may only take 10-20 minutes.  Whereas heating one that has completely cooled over 3 days would take much longer.    So, you are comparing short bursts using off peak rate vs a longer session with peak rates. 
    I agree, but probably not the best example quoting your own fixed eastern region rates that won't apply to anyone here
  • Robin9
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    @Enigimaman

    A winter bill of £137 a month is not expensive for an electrically heated flat.

      I am assuming you have panel heaters for your source of heating - if so these will be cause of your high bills rather than your immersion heater. Make sure these are off when you are away and reduce the settings - timer/thermostat - when you are at home.
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  • Swipe
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    Robin9 said:
    @Enigimaman

    A winter bill of £137 a month is not expensive for an electrically heated flat.

      I am assuming you have panel heaters for your source of heating - if so these will be cause of your high bills rather than your immersion heater. Make sure these are off when you are away and reduce the settings - timer/thermostat - when you are at home.
    The OP said they have rate 1 and 2 so will be on economy 7, so doubtful they'll be using panel heaters
  • Robin9
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    Than you @Swipe missed that
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  • Rate 1: 37.61p and Rate 2: 15.32p.

    Interesring to know it may only take 20 mins or so to neat up Rate 2 tank where there's been no draw. This is what I was wondering. 

    I think the simple answer is I am indeed better off leaving g Rate 2 on and avoiding the booster.

    To answer other questions, I have a very new storage heater and do set it to Holiday mode while I'm away, only kicking in if the temp drops to 10 degrees. I have been gradually tweaking the settings to be on less and less.

    The £137 O quoted for 33 days' use is a bit misleading as I was only there about 20 days...equating to £212 if I'd been there every day. Is thst still high for a winter month?


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