Letters of Administration

dollypeeps

In what circumstances would letters of administration be needed when someone dies?

DE_612183

when there is no will

dollypeeps

Thank you for your reply @DE-612183

Are there any other circumstances?
I’ve recently found out, by public notice that my uncle passed away and that any interest in the estate is directed to solicitors.
I rang to enquire as the expiration date was Nov 2023.
The solicitor told me that the notice was for creditors.
He was reluctant/unable to give me much information ( data protection fe) but did say that the estate hadn’t been dealt with as LoA had been applied for/ requested.

dollypeeps

Would I be able to see if LoA have been granted and to whom?

TIA

p00hsticks

DE_612183 said:

when there is no will

To qualify that.....
You'd only then need letters of adminstration in certain circumstances - usually if the deceased owned property or shares, or had savings that are over a limit that the financial institution in question specifies.

If the estate is small and there is a pretty obvious beneficiary under the intestacy laws (spouse, child) then the banks may be willing to pay over any money in the estate without the need for letters of adminstration. 

p00hsticks

dollypeeps said:

Would I be able to see if LoA have been granted and to whom?

TIA

Assuming the deceased was in england or Wales, you can search here
Search probate records for documents and wills (England and Wales) - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

That will show if LoA have been granted, but I think you'd have to pay £1.50 to get a copy to find out to whom. 

Marcon

p00hsticks said:

dollypeeps said:

Would I be able to see if LoA have been granted and to whom?

TIA

Assuming the deceased was in england or Wales, you can search here
Search probate records for documents and wills (England and Wales) - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

That will show if LoA have been granted, but I think you'd have to pay £1.50 to get a copy to find out to whom. 

Only after probate has been granted, and in this case it clearly hasn't.

dollypeeps said:

I’ve recently found out, by public notice that my uncle passed away and that any interest in the estate is directed to solicitors.
I rang to enquire as the expiration date was Nov 2023.
The solicitor told me that the notice was for creditors.
He was reluctant/unable to give me much information ( data protection fe) but did say that the estate hadn’t been dealt with as LoA had been applied for/ requested.

The estate can't be dealt with until LoA have been granted.

p00hsticks

Marcon said:

p00hsticks said:

dollypeeps said:

Would I be able to see if LoA have been granted and to whom?

TIA

Assuming the deceased was in england or Wales, you can search here
Search probate records for documents and wills (England and Wales) - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

That will show if LoA have been granted, but I think you'd have to pay £1.50 to get a copy to find out to whom. 

Only after probate has been granted, and in this case it clearly hasn't.

Well, if you search and there is no result returned, then that shows that no LoA has been granted - the absence is as indicative as a presence. 
Marcon said:

The estate can't be dealt with until LoA have been granted.

Surely that depends on what the estate consists of ? 
As per my previous post, if there is no property or shares involved, and any sums of money are below that for which the financial institution involved requests it, then my understanding is that its perfectly possible to deal with an estate with no need for probate / Loa.

dollypeeps

Thank you for all your replies.
I’ve searched using the link above and as of today, nothing has been granted.
Does anyone know how quickly the website is updated once LoA has been granted?

I imagine the estate to be sizeable. To the best of my knowledge, there will be a house, possibly a car or two and bank accounts, plus personal effects.

My mum is his next of kin, although they are estranged. She is only interested in a gold bracelet, which was her fathers.

Marcon

p00hsticks said:

Marcon said:

p00hsticks said:

dollypeeps said:

Would I be able to see if LoA have been granted and to whom?

TIA

Assuming the deceased was in england or Wales, you can search here
Search probate records for documents and wills (England and Wales) - GOV.UK (www.gov.uk)

That will show if LoA have been granted, but I think you'd have to pay £1.50 to get a copy to find out to whom. 

Only after probate has been granted, and in this case it clearly hasn't.

Well, if you search and there is no result returned, then that shows that no LoA has been granted - the absence is as indicative as a presence. 

No; the absence tells you that probate hasn't yet been granted.

dollypeeps said:

Thank you for all your replies.
I’ve searched using the link above and as of today, nothing has been granted.
Does anyone know how quickly the website is updated once LoA has been granted?

The answer above is misleading. The website isn't updated once LoA are granted. LoA are granted well before probate, so LoA could be granted many months before the probate records show that probate itself has been granted.

dollypeeps

So will probate be needed because of the size of the estate?

And then probate is done after LoA?

I’m so sorry for what seems like basic questions. I have been reading up on it and I seem to be tying myself up in knots.

TIA