Temporary traffic light with "wait here" sign long before the light

Veteransaver

Very unlikely to get done at temporary traffic lights unless there's a cop car that sees it, even then they are more likely to to give you a talking to.

Mildly_Miffed

Car_54 said:

2. Whichever one of you it was, you should have stopped when the lights turned amber, not red.

Everything except this is irrelevant.

Green - go if it's safe to do so but prepare to stop if the lights start to change
Amber - stop unless it's not safe to do so
Red - stop

It clearly would have been safe to stop on amber, given that you he could have stopped within four car lengths on red. You He had several seconds warning of the light changing to red.

The reason why the "stop here" is where it is is to allow larger vehicles time to move fully to the other side of the road before the width restriction. Four car lengths, 20 metres, is hardly a long way - the minimum eyesight to drive means you have to be able to read a numberplate further than that. It's about two seconds at 20mph, a second and a half at 30mph. The lights would have been amber for three seconds or so.

As far as points go, no, you can't get points because your father drove through a red light... If the car's registered in your name, then the worst is that you get an s172 request to identify the driver, and name him. But it's very rare for temporary traffic lights to have red light cameras - and even where traffic lights have cameras, they normally have a couple of seconds leeway after red anyway.

Ermia

Thanks. One primary question is who will typically process those CCTV footage from temporary traffic lights: police or the council?

I feel like the council barely bothers issuing fixed penalty notices (FPNs), and just issues a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN). That would mean there will be only the fee to pay without admission of guilt, and thereby no chance of getting a penalty (right)?

The police, however, could issue FPNs and add points to the licence. But does the police usually manage those CCTVs? (I assume if it this was the case, they would have been more careful about positioning the sign and lights in a more sensible position so that the drivers are not confused... I assume that the police know the law and road layout system more than the road workers/council)

Aretnap

Ermia said:

Thanks. One primary question is who will typically process those CCTV footage from temporary traffic lights: police or the council?

I feel like the council barely bothers issuing fixed penalty notices (FPNs), and just issues a Penalty Charge Notice (PCN). That would mean there will be only the fee to pay without admission of guilt, and thereby no chance of getting a penalty (right)?

The police, however, could issue FPNs and add points to the licence. But does the police usually manage those CCTVs? (I assume if it this was the case, they would have been more careful about positioning the sign and lights in a more sensible position so that the drivers are not confused... I assume that the police know the law and road layout system more than the road workers/council)

Probably nobody will process it with a view to prosecuting any offences, unless there was an accident or other serious incident. However if anybody did it would be the police. Red lights are a police matter - the fixed penalty is 3 points and £100. It is not something that councils have any power to enforce or issue decriminalised PCNs for (unlike parking contraventions, and bus lane contraventions in certain areas).

35har1old

Car_54 said:

1. Was it you, or your dad?

2. Whichever one of you it was, you should have stopped when the lights turned amber, not red.

If its save to do so.