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Sarah69
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Hi, I work for the NHS and am wondering if there are any laws about speaking their own language whilst at work?
I’m an HCA and work on wards. I was with a patient and another HCA who is foreign. We had to call a nurse over and a few came in where they preceded to speak in the their own language. I find it very rude. Yes they can talk of duty in there own on time but during work time I think it should be English.
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If you're being told that you're not allowed to speak in your national language to other people who also speak it, that's likely to be indirect discrimination and illegal:N. Hampshire, he/him. Octopus Intelligent Go elec & Tracker gas / Vodafone BB / iD mobile. Ripple Kirk Hill member.
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I broadly agree with QrizB, but wonder if there might be some exceptions for safety critical stuff (e.g. it’s safer if everyone speaks English in the operating theatre, rather than having the surgeons talking to each other in a foreign language and the anaesthetist having no idea what’s happening.)
for staff room and casual chit chat, however, speak whatever you want, but be aware that it will exclude some people from the conversation, which could be construed as bullying in some circumstances (but absolutely not all).4 -
I was a first aider at a medical emergency at work and two of the others started speaking to each other in Welsh. They apologised to me, said they weren't being rude but it's was easier for them and gave me a short update once they'd finished. Perfectly acceptable as far as I'm concerned. Likewise we have a lot of Spanish speakers and they often chat in their own language together. But they don't do it generally when working or in meetings.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on Debt Free Wannabe and Old Style Money Saving boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
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I've had this discussed in the workplace too. In my experiences, business and safety-critical communications generally have an agreed language, and recruitment needs to take this into account. When it comes to social chit-chat then we felt it was discriminatory to ask people to never use their own languages while at work.This does flip if those languages are used against others that don't understand, such as when it excludes, and worse talking about colleagues "behind their back".1
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As long as it doesn’t compromise the health,safety and welfare of anyone then I can’t see the problem2
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Slightly out of date but still interesting reading: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10623075/NHS-trust-London-accused-colonial-guidelines-telling-staff-speak-ENGLISH.htmlGoogling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!0
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LightFlare said:As long as it doesn’t compromise the health,safety and welfare of anyone then I can’t see the problem
also 2 nurses in nursing home who were Bulgarian, chatting to each other but the moment there was a visitor, resident or another member of staff around they reverted to English.
reckon problem can really come when others feel left out or feel things are being said which shouldn't be - also case of why they are doing it? If to stop others understanding then it is foolish to assume others can't understand your language.1 -
Marcon said:Slightly out of date but still interesting reading: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10623075/NHS-trust-London-accused-colonial-guidelines-telling-staff-speak-ENGLISH.html2
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There is not going to be legislation around who speaks what language at work however, there may be policies and good practice.Context is all. Chat in staffroom, no problem whatsoever. Ignoring a client, while talking in a different language, more of an issue.
Perhaps the OP might like to provide a few more details?All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.
Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.2 -
Undervalued said:Marcon said:Slightly out of date but still interesting reading: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10623075/NHS-trust-London-accused-colonial-guidelines-telling-staff-speak-ENGLISH.htmlGoogling on your question might have been both quicker and easier, if you're only after simple facts rather than opinions!0
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