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Knotintherope
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I have got into a credit mess over the last 5 years. I changed jobs for a lower salary employment because of mental & physical pressure. Unfortunately Covid came and then increases in fuel, food etc etc. I have subsidised my living expenses with Credit Cards & Personal loans and although I've struggled with minimum payments its all getting on top of me and see no way out.
From my salary of 2k per month I pay into a Santander account £810 which covers all insurances, mortgage, rates, tv, dogs (food & insurances). But there is no longer enough left to cover minimum payments, pellets (pellet boiler for heat & water), food and life.
My company pays & maintains a van which I can use and also a mobile phone
I have read about not paying the loans and CC's until they default and then commence payment plans.
Does this also apply in Northern Ireland and is this a viable option or is there another way of getting on top of these debts
Your thoughts and comments would be appreciated
Thanks
From my salary of 2k per month I pay into a Santander account £810 which covers all insurances, mortgage, rates, tv, dogs (food & insurances). But there is no longer enough left to cover minimum payments, pellets (pellet boiler for heat & water), food and life.
My company pays & maintains a van which I can use and also a mobile phone
I have read about not paying the loans and CC's until they default and then commence payment plans.
Does this also apply in Northern Ireland and is this a viable option or is there another way of getting on top of these debts
Your thoughts and comments would be appreciated
Thanks
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Knotintherope said:I have got into a credit mess over the last 5 years. I changed jobs for a lower salary employment because of mental & physical pressure. Unfortunately Covid came and then increases in fuel, food etc etc. I have subsidised my living expenses with Credit Cards & Personal loans and although I've struggled with minimum payments its all getting on top of me and see no way out.
From my salary of 2k per month I pay into a Santander account £810 which covers all insurances, mortgage, rates, tv, dogs (food & insurances). But there is no longer enough left to cover minimum payments, pellets (pellet boiler for heat & water), food and life.
My company pays & maintains a van which I can use and also a mobile phone
I have read about not paying the loans and CC's until they default and then commence payment plans.
Does this also apply in Northern Ireland and is this a viable option or is there another way of getting on top of these debts
Your thoughts and comments would be appreciated
ThanksHousehold Information[/b]Number of adults in household........... 2Number of children in household......... 0Number of cars owned.................... 0[b]Monthly Income Details[/b]Monthly income after tax................ 2003.52Partners monthly income after tax....... 0Benefits................................ 0Other income............................ 0[b]Total monthly income.................... 2003.52[/b][b]Monthly Expense Details[/b]Mortgage................................ 857.9Secured/HP loan repayments.............. 0Rent.................................... 0Management charge (leasehold property).. 0Council tax............................. 42Electricity............................. 43.5Gas..................................... 51.5Oil..................................... 185Water rates............................. 0Telephone (land line)................... 0Mobile phone............................ 0TV Licence.............................. 13.66Satellite/Cable TV...................... 131Internet Services....................... 0Groceries etc. ......................... 200Clothing................................ 0Petrol/diesel........................... 0Road tax................................ 0Car Insurance........................... 0Car maintenance (including MOT)......... 0Car parking............................. 0Other travel............................ 0Childcare/nursery....................... 0Other child related expenses............ 0Medical (prescriptions, dentist etc).... 56.95Pet insurance/vet bills................. 70Buildings insurance..................... 42.19Contents insurance...................... 0Life assurance ......................... 83.66Other insurance......................... 0Presents (birthday, christmas etc)...... 0Haircuts................................ 0Entertainment........................... 0Holiday................................. 0Emergency fund.......................... 0[b]Total monthly expenses.................. 1777.36[/b][b]Assets[/b]Cash.................................... 0House value (Gross)..................... 180000Shares and bonds........................ 0Car(s).................................. 0Other assets............................ 0[b]Total Assets............................ 180000[/b][b]Secured & HP Debts[/b]Description....................Debt......Monthly...APRMortgage...................... 87026....(857.9)....0[b]Total secured & HP debts...... 87026.....-.........- [/b][b]Unsecured Debts[/b]Description....................Debt......Monthly...APRTesco CC.......................6962......171.......0PayPal Credit..................4192......150.......0American Express...............2515......114.......0Novuna PL......................3126.78...100.......0Novuna PL......................1511.31...91........0Novuna PL......................2704.82...242.......0Vanquis CC.....................860.74....40........0MBNA CC........................4647.85...187.......0Virgin CC......................3890......110.......0[b]Total unsecured debts..........30410.5...1205......- [/b][b]Monthly Budget Summary[/b]Total monthly income.................... 2,003.52Expenses (including HP & secured debts). 1,777.36Available for debt repayments........... 226.16Monthly UNsecured debt repayments....... 1,205[b]Amount short for making debt repayments. -978.84[/b][b]Personal Balance Sheet Summary[/b]Total assets (things you own)........... 180,000Total HP & Secured debt................. -87,026Total Unsecured debt.................... -30,410.5[b]Net Assets.............................. 62,563.5[/b]0 -
It looks like you need a debt management plan. Worth talking to Advice NI.
https://www.adviceni.net/money-debt/debt
Your tv spend is high. Is that Sky?1 -
Yep it’s Sky but also includes internet & phone… Can you do a DMP by yourself?0
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Even so, that's expensive. I wonder if you phoned them whether they could reduce it.
Yes you can do a self-managed dmp. Kim has a useful thresd here
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6496941/in-debt-and-wannabe-debt-free-first-steps/p1
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In terms of Life Assurance, if your partner or children (if any) depend on your salary then keep it but if they have their own means of paying for "life" if something were to happen to you then you dont need it.Baby Step 6/7 . £16000 saved and invested. £47,000 deposit paid on new home DEBT FREE !!!
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Certainly some sort of debt management plan will be needed. The sky cost is very high so if that can be negotiated down that would help. You are also paying a lot on utilities oil/gas/elec.
As @fatbelly says talk to Advice NI as I am not sure if stepchange operate in Northern Ireland.I’m a Forum Ambassador and I support the Forum Team on the Debt free Wannabe, Budgeting and Banking and Savings and Investment boards. If you need any help on these boards, do let me know. Please note that Ambassadors are not moderators. Any posts you spot in breach of the Forum Rules should be reported via the report button, or by emailing forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com. All views are my own and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.
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You've got too much expense for that income, basically. I'd also question whether the soa is accurate - presumably not given the debts. For example nothing for presents, entertainment, holidays? Moving forward you'll either need to increase your income or cut your cloth accordingly.0
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Thank you all for your comments … At present I have a Santander joint account which I and my wife pay £810 pounds into each… this covers all expenses (mortgage, insurance, rates, electricity etc). I am left with just under £1200 to service the debt, food and living expenses. Obviously and because I’ve depended on the CC’s the minimum payments have crept up to a stage where even paying the minimum puts me in a minus.
I can look at the expenses over the coming weeks to try and reduce them but I also want to tackle my debt head on.From reading several other threads would the next steps be
1. Cancel DD’s for personal loans
2. Don’t make any payments to Credit cards
3. Switch my bank account (Is Chase a good option)
4. Await the loans & credit cards to default while facing a barrage of phone calls, emails & letters.
5. Then contact whoever then controls the debt to offer a payment plan based on my SOA at that time
Again thank you for your advice I will take it all on board but I can ensure you I’m determined to get on top of this0 -
That sounds good. Chase is a very good option with cashback for a year and in-credit interest1
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Also Chase doesn't offer an overdraft, so any credit check should be less onerous than many banks1
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