Redundancy

lincroft1710

Coco52 said:

400ixl said:

Basically yes.

Why is it unfair? They are compensating you against your current income.

How many weeks depends on the length of service and your age as there are age brackets where you get a different number of weeks per year.

• 0.5 week’s pay for each full year worked when you’re under 22
• 1 week’s pay for each full year worked when you’re between 22 and 41
• 1.5 week’s pay for each full year worked when you’re 41 or older

I’m sorry I do think it’s unfair and I believe it’s something they should look into because it’s morally wrong but that’s me and others may not agree but thank you 

Redundancy payment is not a "long service award". As @400ixl said it is compensating you against your current income. It is not morally wrong that what you were earning 2 or more years is ignored for the calculation. It works the other way too. If you had been part time for 40 years but 15 weeks before you were made redundant you went full time, your redundancy payment would be based on your full time wage.


Whoever "they" are, will certainly not be looking into it.

Coco52

400ixl said:

So if it were the other way around and you had gone from part time to full time you would be happy to only get a payment based on your part time salary.

Or were you expecting to pro-rata based on years full time and part time?

Let’s just say I wouldn’t expect to get paid full time on the years I didn’t do , yes I think they should base it on that , let me ask you a question would you be happy if you had worked full time for that amount of years and you worked along side someone that hadn’t and they received the same package as you would you think it was fair ?

lincroft1710

Coco52 said:

400ixl said:

So if it were the other way around and you had gone from part time to full time you would be happy to only get a payment based on your part time salary.

Or were you expecting to pro-rata based on years full time and part time?

Let’s just say I wouldn’t expect to get paid full time on the years I didn’t do , yes I think they should base it on that , let me ask you a question would you be happy if you had worked full time for that amount of years and you worked along side someone that hadn’t and they received the same package as you would you think it was fair ?

It doesn't matter what an individual thinks is "fair". The payment is based on what an employees is currently earning because that is what matters going forward, not what they were earning in the past. By dropping to part time you were saying you no longer needed the full time wage, so going forward you will only need the equivalent of your part time wage.Hence your redundancy payment is based on the average of the past 12 weeks wages.

400ixl

Coco52 said:

400ixl said:

So if it were the other way around and you had gone from part time to full time you would be happy to only get a payment based on your part time salary.

Or were you expecting to pro-rata based on years full time and part time?

Let’s just say I wouldn’t expect to get paid full time on the years I didn’t do , yes I think they should base it on that , let me ask you a question would you be happy if you had worked full time for that amount of years and you worked along side someone that hadn’t and they received the same package as you would you think it was fair ?

Yes, I would think it was fair. They were working full time and I wasn't. I would have made a life choice to be part time and would expect the redundancy to be based on my current income.

Would I feel a bit miffed I'd changed to part time and not still been part time, maybe, would depend on why the change. But wouldn't feel I had been unfairly treated, just unlucky in timing.

Coco52

lincroft1710 said:

Coco52 said:

400ixl said:

So if it were the other way around and you had gone from part time to full time you would be happy to only get a payment based on your part time salary.

Or were you expecting to pro-rata based on years full time and part time?

Let’s just say I wouldn’t expect to get paid full time on the years I didn’t do , yes I think they should base it on that , let me ask you a question would you be happy if you had worked full time for that amount of years and you worked along side someone that hadn’t and they received the same package as you would you think it was fair ?

It doesn't matter what an individual thinks is "fair". The payment is based on what an employees is currently earning because that is what matters going forward, not what they were earning in the past. By dropping to part time you were saying you no longer needed the full time wage, so going forward you will only need the equivalent of your part time wage.Hence your redundancy payment is based on the average of the past 12 weeks wages.

How the hell do you know I didn’t need full time wage you don’t know my life because someone goes part time could be personal reasons because not everyone can give up completely, so NO it isn’t fair 

lincroft1710

Coco52 said:

lincroft1710 said:

Coco52 said:

400ixl said:

So if it were the other way around and you had gone from part time to full time you would be happy to only get a payment based on your part time salary.

Or were you expecting to pro-rata based on years full time and part time?

Let’s just say I wouldn’t expect to get paid full time on the years I didn’t do , yes I think they should base it on that , let me ask you a question would you be happy if you had worked full time for that amount of years and you worked along side someone that hadn’t and they received the same package as you would you think it was fair ?

It doesn't matter what an individual thinks is "fair". The payment is based on what an employees is currently earning because that is what matters going forward, not what they were earning in the past. By dropping to part time you were saying you no longer needed the full time wage, so going forward you will only need the equivalent of your part time wage.Hence your redundancy payment is based on the average of the past 12 weeks wages.

How the hell do you know I didn’t need full time wage you don’t know my life because someone goes part time could be personal reasons because not everyone can give up completely, so NO it isn’t fair 

But you made the choice to go part time, therefore you accepted the fact you would get less money and had you not been made redundant, you would still be getting less money than a full time employee. Going forward it is to be assumed you will be looking for part time employment and that (in your case) is why your redundancy is based on part time wages, because that is what you were earning  prior to being made redundant. What you were earning 3 years ago is irrelevant


I will reiterate. A redundancy payment is not a "long service award", it is a payment to help you keep going until you find another job. It is based both on length of service and your average wage during your final 12 weeks employment. You can moan that you think it is unfair but it won't get you anywhere. Those are the rules and in view of the direction employment legislation is going any changes to the rules on redundancy pay are unlikely to benefit the employee.

GrumpyDil

Coco52 said:

lincroft1710 said:

Coco52 said:

400ixl said:

So if it were the other way around and you had gone from part time to full time you would be happy to only get a payment based on your part time salary.

Or were you expecting to pro-rata based on years full time and part time?

Let’s just say I wouldn’t expect to get paid full time on the years I didn’t do , yes I think they should base it on that , let me ask you a question would you be happy if you had worked full time for that amount of years and you worked along side someone that hadn’t and they received the same package as you would you think it was fair ?

It doesn't matter what an individual thinks is "fair". The payment is based on what an employees is currently earning because that is what matters going forward, not what they were earning in the past. By dropping to part time you were saying you no longer needed the full time wage, so going forward you will only need the equivalent of your part time wage.Hence your redundancy payment is based on the average of the past 12 weeks wages.

How the hell do you know I didn’t need full time wage you don’t know my life because someone goes part time could be personal reasons because not everyone can give up completely, so NO it isn’t fair 

No one knows the reason why you have chosen to go part time but it is a fact that you are part time and redundancy is based on your wage at the time the redundancy occurs so there really isn't a question about fairness here.