3 Double Bedrooms vs 4 Smaller Bedrooms?

pieroabcd

For me fewer but larger is always MUCH better than more and smaller.
The kind of bedrooms where you can't move freely around 3 sides of the bed or where the wardrobe door hits against the bed are my worst nightmare.
Where everything fits only by the millimeter is guaranteed to create the kind of "bedroom experience" that makes you want to go somewhere else.
Tiny bedrooms can be good for kids, but they have a tendency to grow up and feel constrained (and wonder "why my  bedroom is soooo small? Why can't I have a larger one?" as it happened to me when i was a kid).

I totally disagree with the "more bedrooms is more valueable" estate agents propaganda. At the viewing all the compromises will stand out.
I'm loking forward to repay my mortgage to join the "master" and the boxroom (engineers permitting).

vacheron

I think making a 4 into a 3 and losing an en-suite would not be a good idea as the rooms are potentially an adequate size for future potential buyers and the layout looks designed around the 4 bedroom concept..

As you are looking to sell in the future you need to ask what would people who are in a position to buy this house in the future realistically require three larger rooms and less bathrooms for?

In the meantine a decent sized "spare" 4th bedroom could be used for anything (storage, wardrobes, play room, study etc, leaving the smaler "third" bedroom purely for sleeping if needed.

Not sure why kids these days all seem to need double beds. Out 11 year old son has a single, even though his room would easily fit a double, and is perfectly happy with it. 


Conversely, when we bought we noticed most houses were more like pushing 5 bedrooms into a 4 bedroom shell.

We found most of the 5 beds were in the newer "executive" developments and possibly originally sold as such so the developer could charge a premium. 

Where these were being re-sold by the first or second owners, most had made the 5th "bedroom" into something like a walk in wardrobe or a second en-suite, it was so small. 

Our issue though is that the developers had also carried this theme to the downstairs areas. with the ground floor being broken up into multiple very small rooms.. "boot room" "laundry room", "downstairs study". However this meant that the main downstairs rooms were much smaller than you would expect and somewhat chaotic with few clear lines of sight.

In one 5 bed we looked at I noted you had to pass through three doors to get from the kitchen to the dining room, and one house had a total of 6 doors to get from one room in the house to another! You would need an intercom or a teams call to gather everybody together for dinner! 

In the end we decided on fewer but larger, we tend to leave most doors open all of the time, and like that we can shout from any room in the house and be heard by whoever needs to hear us! 

Hassan25

Hi Guys! 
I want to put rug in my bedroom. What should be better jute or Gracoizza and what color will look better.

Albermarle

Hassan25 said:

Hi Guys! 
I want to put rug in my bedroom. What should be better jute or Gracoizza and what color will look better.

Please start your own thread if you have a question. ( Plus how would anybody have any idea about colour without seeing the room !)

Sistergold

gazfocus said:

lincroft1710 said:

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MultiFuelBurner said:

Perhaps share the upstairs layout?

Here you go

That GF layout looks as if there has been a semi integral garage conversion to form the shower room and study. Don't do anything to the FF, it is an acceptable layout for a family with 2 or 3 children and at today's materials and labour costs would be uneconomic to alter 

Almost... when we bought the house (14 years ago), the previous owner had converted the garage to a downstairs bedroom and en-suite shower room for their disabled son. We altered it to create the hallway and study and left the downstairs shower room as it was.

With the upstairs, I'm thinking we will likely leave most of it as is but get rid of the en-suite to improve the master bedroom. (We will leave the plumbing under the floor for future options but it's the one thing we hate the most about the house). 

Do NOT get rid of the en suite, it will cost time and money and make the house less desirable and lower its value

The en-suite is the biggest issue we have with the house. We have a standard king size bed (not a big lavish type) and with it in the room, there's barely any space to get past the end of the bed thanks to the en-suite taking a chunk out of the corner of the room. The en-suite in its current form CANNOT stay. Whether that's just a matter of relocating it, changing its shape, or something else, I don't know, but it has got to change.

I am with you on this, that master is way too small to have an en-suite in it while keep larger than a double bed. Worse still two people in the room! If you leave the plumbing then next person can convert it back to an en-suite if they choose. 

gazfocus

Sistergold said:

gazfocus said:

lincroft1710 said:

gazfocus said:

lincroft1710 said:

gazfocus said:

MultiFuelBurner said:

Perhaps share the upstairs layout?

Here you go

That GF layout looks as if there has been a semi integral garage conversion to form the shower room and study. Don't do anything to the FF, it is an acceptable layout for a family with 2 or 3 children and at today's materials and labour costs would be uneconomic to alter 

Almost... when we bought the house (14 years ago), the previous owner had converted the garage to a downstairs bedroom and en-suite shower room for their disabled son. We altered it to create the hallway and study and left the downstairs shower room as it was.

With the upstairs, I'm thinking we will likely leave most of it as is but get rid of the en-suite to improve the master bedroom. (We will leave the plumbing under the floor for future options but it's the one thing we hate the most about the house). 

Do NOT get rid of the en suite, it will cost time and money and make the house less desirable and lower its value

The en-suite is the biggest issue we have with the house. We have a standard king size bed (not a big lavish type) and with it in the room, there's barely any space to get past the end of the bed thanks to the en-suite taking a chunk out of the corner of the room. The en-suite in its current form CANNOT stay. Whether that's just a matter of relocating it, changing its shape, or something else, I don't know, but it has got to change.

I am with you on this, that master is way too small to have an en-suite in it while keep larger than a double bed. Worse still two people in the room! If you leave the plumbing then next person can convert it back to an en-suite if they choose. 

Think this is what we are going to do. Knock the en-suite out, keep the part over the stairs (either as a toilet still or a built in wardrobe) but keep the plumbing under the floorboards. When we come to sell, we will then take the EA’s advice about whether to put the en-suite back before listing the house for sale. Then we will focus our efforts on downstairs. 

lincroft1710

This talk of removing the en suite reminds me of a conversation I had with a guy about 50 years ago. His house didn't have enough bedrooms so he was planning to convert the upstairs  and only bathroom back to a bedroom. There was I believe, a downstairs outside WC.

gazfocus

lincroft1710 said:

This talk of removing the en suite reminds me of a conversation I had with a guy about 50 years ago. His house didn't have enough bedrooms so he was planning to convert the upstairs  and only bathroom back to a bedroom. There was I believe, a downstairs outside WC.

I get that removing the en-suite isn’t an ideal solution for when we come to sell the house but having had many conversation, our priority is going to be making the house right for us right now. Ultimately, the en-suite is a stud wall with a shower on it and another with a door (yes it’s not quite that simple) but what I’m getting at is that it won’t be all that difficult to put back later when we come to sell the house and as there’s no other viable alternative in terms of relocating the en-suite, there’s not a great deal we can do about it. 

dander

If it helps, I prefer the layout without the en-suite. I am not a fan of en-suites, particularly for this very reason that they are so often shoe-horned in at the expense of decent room space where you need it. You might lose some buyers by taking it out, but others will be like me and be happy with four normal bedrooms and one bath upstairs, especially if you've got an extra bathroom downstairs so there's no shortage of facilities.

lincroft1710

gazfocus said:

lincroft1710 said:

This talk of removing the en suite reminds me of a conversation I had with a guy about 50 years ago. His house didn't have enough bedrooms so he was planning to convert the upstairs  and only bathroom back to a bedroom. There was I believe, a downstairs outside WC.

I get that removing the en-suite isn’t an ideal solution for when we come to sell the house but having had many conversation, our priority is going to be making the house right for us right now. Ultimately, the en-suite is a stud wall with a shower on it and another with a door (yes it’s not quite that simple) but what I’m getting at is that it won’t be all that difficult to put back later when we come to sell the house and as there’s no other viable alternative in terms of relocating the en-suite, there’s not a great deal we can do about it. 

I think you missed the point of my post!