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New build delayed as access road too narrow?

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  • MultiFuelBurner
    MultiFuelBurner Posts: 2,928 Forumite
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    edited 28 January 2024 at 10:03AM
    If they can't get the road right I wonder how they will get the houses right ๐Ÿค”

    I would be getting the tape measure out when moving in ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
  • eddddy
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    Ybe said:
    Is it normal for a new build development to become delayed because the developer realised the private access road they built into the development is too narrow by 30cm to be legally compliant and now they have to widen in?ย 

    I guess you should maybe consider who told you that and what their motives were for telling you.

    For example, was it a developer's representative making excuses for why a development is delayed?


    As a random example, I guess it's possible that a developer might not want to say "We're in financial difficulties, because our banks have lost confidence in us, and they won't extend our borrowing. So we can't do any more building until we can raise more finance."

    So the directors have a board meeting and decide that their message to the world is "We can't do any more building, because the road is too narrow."


  • Ybe
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    edited 28 January 2024 at 11:51AM
    eddddy said:
    Ybe said:
    Is it normal for a new build development to become delayed because the developer realised the private access road they built into the development is too narrow by 30cm to be legally compliant and now they have to widen in?ย 

    I guess you should maybe consider who told you that and what their motives were for telling you.

    For example, was it a developer's representative making excuses for why a development is delayed?


    As a random example, I guess it's possible that a developer might not want to say "We're in financial difficulties, because our banks have lost confidence in us, and they won't extend our borrowing. So we can't do any more building until we can raise more finance."

    So the directors have a board meeting and decide that their message to the world is "We can't do any more building, because the road is too narrow."


    Are they allowed to lie in that way? it was the sales team who told me. They said theyโ€™ll rectify it in a month or less. But either way they are screwed. I had a look at the site and they donโ€™t have 30cm. On one side of the road they have their development and on the other side they have a load of trees with tree protection orders on them plus their street lights theyโ€™ve erected.

    The easiest way to resolve it is to take space from the terraces of the ground floor flats. Which theyโ€™ve also already built. Either way an expensive mistake for the developer.ย 
  • Section62
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    Ybe said:
    eddddy said:
    Ybe said:
    Is it normal for a new build development to become delayed because the developer realised the private access road they built into the development is too narrow by 30cm to be legally compliant and now they have to widen in?ย 

    I guess you should maybe consider who told you that and what their motives were for telling you.

    For example, was it a developer's representative making excuses for why a development is delayed?


    As a random example, I guess it's possible that a developer might not want to say "We're in financial difficulties, because our banks have lost confidence in us, and they won't extend our borrowing. So we can't do any more building until we can raise more finance."

    So the directors have a board meeting and decide that their message to the world is "We can't do any more building, because the road is too narrow."


    Are they allowed to lie in that way? it was the sales team who told me. They said theyโ€™ll rectify it in a month or less. But either way they are screwed. I had a look at the site and they donโ€™t have 30cm. On one side of the road they have their development and on the other side they have a load of trees with tree protection orders on them plus their street lights theyโ€™ve erected.


    If the road is too narrow then it isn't a lie, evenif it wasn't the whole truth.

    Have you checked the planning application on the council's website to see if there is any recent correspondence about the road?
  • user1977
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    edited 28 January 2024 at 3:03PM
    Ybe said:
    eddddy said:
    Ybe said:
    Is it normal for a new build development to become delayed because the developer realised the private access road they built into the development is too narrow by 30cm to be legally compliant and now they have to widen in?ย 

    I guess you should maybe consider who told you that and what their motives were for telling you.

    For example, was it a developer's representative making excuses for why a development is delayed?


    As a random example, I guess it's possible that a developer might not want to say "We're in financial difficulties, because our banks have lost confidence in us, and they won't extend our borrowing. So we can't do any more building until we can raise more finance."

    So the directors have a board meeting and decide that their message to the world is "We can't do any more building, because the road is too narrow."


    Are they allowed to lie in that way?ย 
    โ€œAllowedโ€? Iโ€™m not sure whoโ€™s going to stop them - the fibbing police?

    I donโ€™t know whether youโ€™ve reserved or exchanged, but in any event the builders donโ€™t contractually need excuses, made-up or otherwise, about how long the build takes.
  • It took 5 months for my sister's new build estate to get the road signed off by highways team. Her house was fully built and she couldn't move in.ย 
    I'm not sure if the issue or if it was a delay at the council and getting permission to close roads but it was very frustrating. I imagine things like this go wrong all the time. At least they are fixing it and getting them adopted rather than letting you move in and "fixing it" at a later date.
  • sheramber
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    Ybe said:
    eddddy said:
    Ybe said:
    Is it normal for a new build development to become delayed because the developer realised the private access road they built into the development is too narrow by 30cm to be legally compliant and now they have to widen in?ย 

    I guess you should maybe consider who told you that and what their motives were for telling you.

    For example, was it a developer's representative making excuses for why a development is delayed?


    As a random example, I guess it's possible that a developer might not want to say "We're in financial difficulties, because our banks have lost confidence in us, and they won't extend our borrowing. So we can't do any more building until we can raise more finance."

    So the directors have a board meeting and decide that their message to the world is "We can't do any more building, because the road is too narrow."


    Are they allowed to lie in that way? it was the sales team who told me. They said theyโ€™ll rectify it in a month or less. But either way they are screwed. I had a look at the site and they donโ€™t have 30cm. On one side of the road they have their development and on the other side they have a load of trees with tree protection orders on them plus their street lights theyโ€™ve erected.

    The easiest way to resolve it is to take space from the terraces of the ground floor flats. Which theyโ€™ve also already built. Either way an expensive mistake for the developer.ย 
    The sales team can only say what they have been told.ย  They wouldn't be party to any discussions.
  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 13,683 Forumite
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    It took 5 months for my sister's new build estate to get the road signed off by highways team. Her house was fully built and she couldn't move in.ย 
    I'm not sure if the issue or if it was a delay at the council and getting permission to close roads but it was very frustrating. I imagine things like this go wrong all the time. At least they are fixing it and getting them adopted rather than letting you move in and "fixing it" at a later date.
    If it was a s278/s38 inspection and sign off delays are not unusual.

    Engineers with the requisite knowledge are like hens teeth and they need to be closely involved as at the end of the day its the Council that will be responsible for upkeep and repairs.
  • Ybe
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    Itโ€™s not an adopted road. Itโ€™s a private access road which is 20cm too narrow and hence too narrow for fire engines to get in.ย 
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