PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.

Need advice about an LPA

I have my mothers LPA and, as an attorny, activated the key for the solicitors who are working on selling my mothers house as she has moved in with us. Banks, GP, etc. have accepted the LPA online Key, but this solicitor insits on the original copy being certified by a solicitor before they will progress. .Gov has directed me on my mother certifying this herself, which is for her to  copy the original, write a statement, sign and date every page, and copy these for those who wish to have it. No, this solicitor wants the original copy. I do not think it correct to give just the one company out of many the original? or write on it which .gov said not to do?? this leaves me with no LPA for all other companies. Why would the online key not suffice? If anyone can reference the law on this so I can go back to this company, I would be grateful. There is nothing like a sensitive compasionate company at this emotional time when you have just taken on the full care of your mother and spend 4-5 hours a day trying to sort out companies like this, is there?

Comments

  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 35,686 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    edited 24 January 2024 at 9:45PM
    Did your mum register any wishes or preferences?

    “What can organisations see?

    The organisations will be able to see the Donor and Attorney/s details, which include:

    • Names, addresses and date of births
    • How attorney decisions are to be made
    • Whether any instructions or preferences exist within the LPA
    • When the LPA can be used
    • Date the Donor signed the LPA
    • LPA registration date

    The organisations will not be able to see what the instructions or preferences are, only that some exist. If there are instructions or preferences noted in the LPA, a paper copy of the LPA should be requested by the organisation, to ensure all actions are in line with the Donor’s wishes.”


    https://www.wilsonbrowne.co.uk/guides/guide-to-the-use-lasting-power-of-attorney-service/

    My other thought is, does your mother have capacity around the house sale? Because if she does, you could do most of the legwork for her, and she could just sign the paperwork. 
    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • TBG01
    TBG01 Posts: 496 Forumite
    Fourth Anniversary 100 Posts Name Dropper
    Gov has directed me on my mother certifying this herself,

    Please provide the link then. Because it doesn't take a qualification in law to see how that could lead to fraudulent documents being produced.

    No, this solicitor wants the original copy. I do not think it correct 

    Well you're infact incorrect.

    or write on it which .gov said not to do??

    Who has said they'd write on the original? They make a copy, which is certified as being a true copy of the original. Which the buyers Solicitor will funnily enough accept over Barry down the pub certifying it as a copy.

    Why would the online key not suffice?

    Because it's not the LPA. 


    There is nothing like a sensitive compasionate company at this emotional time when you have just taken on the full care of your mother and spend 4-5 hours a day trying to sort out companies like this, is there?

    And there's nothing like questioning those who know what they're doing based of a quick Google search.
  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 35,686 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper Photogenic
    TBG01 said:
    Gov has directed me on my mother certifying this herself,

    Please provide the link then. Because it doesn't take a qualification in law to see how that could lead to fraudulent documents being produced.

    No, this solicitor wants the original copy. I do not think it correct 

    Well you're infact incorrect.

    or write on it which .gov said not to do??

    Who has said they'd write on the original? They make a copy, which is certified as being a true copy of the original. Which the buyers Solicitor will funnily enough accept over Barry down the pub certifying it as a copy.

    Why would the online key not suffice?

    Because it's not the LPA. 


    There is nothing like a sensitive compasionate company at this emotional time when you have just taken on the full care of your mother and spend 4-5 hours a day trying to sort out companies like this, is there?

    And there's nothing like questioning those who know what they're doing based of a quick Google search.
    Here you go. How to certify your own copy of a power-of-attorney on the gov.uk site . https://www.gov.uk/power-of-attorney/certify
    It’s you who’s got it wrong this time round.

    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • bobster2
    bobster2 Posts: 923 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 500 Posts Photogenic Name Dropper
    edited 24 January 2024 at 10:12PM
    It says...
    You can confirm that a copy of your lasting power of attorney (LPA) is genuine by ‘certifying’ it if you’re still able to make your own decisions.
    Has it been activated because she has lost mental capacity? Is that why the solicitor won't accept a self-certified copy?
  • tacpot12
    tacpot12 Posts: 9,194 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Amazon sell stamps that can be used to add the required text to a certified copy. They sell two different wordings, one for use on the last page and one for use on all the other pages. I would only recommend buying the stamp taht ois used for all the other pages, and to hand write the text required on the last page. 

    As has been advised, the donor can do this if they have capacity or a solicitor can do it if they do not. 
    The comments I post are my personal opinion. While I try to check everything is correct before posting, I can and do make mistakes, so always try to check official information sources before relying on my posts.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 350.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 252.9K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.2K Spending & Discounts
  • 243.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 597.8K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 176.6K Life & Family
  • 256.3K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.