Solicitor said "You have to keep him" about the fiancé in the Will.

user1977

If the clients disagree about whether they're actually engaged then I suspect the solicitor may have a conflict of interest...

Keep_pedalling

user1977 said:

If the clients disagree about whether they're actually engaged then I suspect the solicitor may have a conflict of interest...

Or just simply be confused 😈

Marcon

Keep_pedalling said:

user1977 said:

If the clients disagree about whether they're actually engaged then I suspect the solicitor may have a conflict of interest...

Or just simply be confused 😈

Quite. If a solicitor is given unclear instructions, it's no surprise the outcome may not be what the client wants.

Maybe the best course of action is for the client to ask the solicitor exactly why the clause 'has to stay in' - and clarify that they aren't actually engaged and never will be...?

Hoenir

Lord_Frugal12 said:

A female friend is trying to have her Will written professionally by a solicitor. She has been living with a man for over five years. They are not married. But, the male describes her as a 'fiancé'. But the male has rejected all plans to get married. 

What does this have to do with the drafting of her will?  Are we getting the full story as what as to the instructions that were given to the solicitor.  

Emmia

Hoenir said:

Lord_Frugal12 said:

A female friend is trying to have her Will written professionally by a solicitor. She has been living with a man for over five years. They are not married. But, the male describes her as a 'fiancé'. But the male has rejected all plans to get married. 

What does this have to do with the drafting of her will?  Are we getting the full story as what as to the instructions that were given to the solicitor.  

I was wondering if there is something cultural/religious about this - I'm not sure why the male partner is "involved" in what she puts in the will unless there's some sort of "mirror will" intention...

badmemory

I have to wonder at the intentions of someone who seems to be refusing to marry but calls someone their fiance.  As Emmia said I too am wondering about culture/religion involvement in this.  Actually I find it quite concerning, but I am probably wrong & seeing shadows where there are none.

bobster2

Emmia said:

Hoenir said:

Lord_Frugal12 said:

A female friend is trying to have her Will written professionally by a solicitor. She has been living with a man for over five years. They are not married. But, the male describes her as a 'fiancé'. But the male has rejected all plans to get married. 

What does this have to do with the drafting of her will?  Are we getting the full story as what as to the instructions that were given to the solicitor.  

I was wondering if there is something cultural/religious about this - I'm not sure why the male partner is "involved" in what she puts in the will unless there's some sort of "mirror will" intention...

OP hasn't mentioned the partner being involved. It just seems that female friend told the solicitor that she has a "fiancé" - so solicitor is recommending standarding wording "in contemplation of marriage" which may not benefit the "fiancé" at all.

Emmia

bobster2 said:

Emmia said:

Hoenir said:

Lord_Frugal12 said:

A female friend is trying to have her Will written professionally by a solicitor. She has been living with a man for over five years. They are not married. But, the male describes her as a 'fiancé'. But the male has rejected all plans to get married. 

What does this have to do with the drafting of her will?  Are we getting the full story as what as to the instructions that were given to the solicitor.  

I was wondering if there is something cultural/religious about this - I'm not sure why the male partner is "involved" in what she puts in the will unless there's some sort of "mirror will" intention...

OP hasn't mentioned the partner being involved. It just seems that female friend told the solicitor that she has a "fiancé" - so solicitor is recommending standarding wording "in contemplation of marriage" which may not benefit the "fiancé" at all.

I'm not sure they really are fiancés - one of them doesn't apparently want to marry, so there's no need for a will in contemplation of marriage. The friend can still make a will leaving it all to the boyfriend, or the cats home or whatever.

I put "involved" in quotes for a reason, as I sense there's some influencing going on...

Honestly I think the female friend would be better finding a different solicitor.

Savvy_Sue

People do sometimes become engaged without any immediate intention to marry. It's not a situation I'd be happy with, and I also wouldn't tolerate being called a fiancée if I personally hadn't agreed to marry - and it's unclear whether or not she regards him as her fiancé. 

pjs493

Another thing to consider with the contemplation of marriage clause is that the marriage has to take place within a reasonable period of time. If they consider themselves engaged but have no intention to marry, it might be deemed that the clause expires if 20 years down the line they’re still not married. It all depends on who stands to benefit from her Will.