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  • lincroft1710
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    JustMe18 said:
    JustMe18 said:
    sheramber said:
    Are the police taking any action?
    What kind of action?  No, of course not, police was at the scene there, they did an alcohol test ( both 0) and checked tacho. No action. 
    He was at fault leaving insufficient distance between his vehicle and the vehicle in front to enable him to stop in time. But it seems unless there was personal injury to a third party or excessive speed was involved, there is usually no further action.
    Second lorry not even a single scratch & of course no injuries, only my husband is injured and his lorry damaged. Speed all right, police checked tacho, not over a limit indeed. The was a hill before that and his lorry is heavy. 
    Distance was long enough not to even see the front lorry in front of him behind the turn. Also the fact that first lorry was rushing and overtook him on a village road and then when road traffic controller suddenly came out, she slammed her breaks to cause a smoke off her wheels. Even she admires , she had a small distance between that guy and her lorry, so she had to suddenly stop. Also it was extremely sunny ( when you can barely see ) + veeery slippery road down the hill. I know he still at fault, just hope his employer understands all these circumstances. 
    I don't know why you have posted this. It has already been established that the police have taken no further action, so clearly there was no third party injury nor excessive speed.
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  • LightFlare
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    edited 30 January 2024 at 10:15AM
    JustMe18 said:
    Andy_L said:
    JustMe18 said:
    sheramber said:
    Are the police taking any action?
    What kind of action?  No, of course not, police was at the scene there, they did an alcohol test ( both 0) and checked tacho. No action. 
    prosecution?
    Andy_L said:
    JustMe18 said:
    sheramber said:
    Are the police taking any action?
    What kind of action?  No, of course not, police was at the scene there, they did an alcohol test ( both 0) and checked tacho. No action. 
    prosecution?
    Sorry what for? He wasn’t speeding, had sufficient distance etc. First lorry not even a single scratch. 
    Potentially it could be considered “driving without due care” since he drove into the back of the vehicle in front.

    If You want to talk hypothetically- it could have been “causing death by dangerous driving” IF the circumstances had been different - but they weren’t. Fortunate 

    All a bit moot since you have already stated “no further action”

    Just to clarify - there was NOT sufficient distance. If there was, he wouldnt have hit the other truck.
  • JustMe18
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    edited 30 January 2024 at 10:27AM
    JustMe18 said:
    JustMe18 said:
    sheramber said:
    Are the police taking any action?
    What kind of action?  No, of course not, police was at the scene there, they did an alcohol test ( both 0) and checked tacho. No action. 
    He was at fault leaving insufficient distance between his vehicle and the vehicle in front to enable him to stop in time. But it seems unless there was personal injury to a third party or excessive speed was involved, there is usually no further action.
    Second lorry not even a single scratch & of course no injuries, only my husband is injured and his lorry damaged. Speed all right, police checked tacho, not over a limit indeed. The was a hill before that and his lorry is heavy. 
    Distance was long enough not to even see the front lorry in front of him behind the turn. Also the fact that first lorry was rushing and overtook him on a village road and then when road traffic controller suddenly came out, she slammed her breaks to cause a smoke off her wheels. Even she admires , she had a small distance between that guy and her lorry, so she had to suddenly stop. Also it was extremely sunny ( when you can barely see ) + veeery slippery road down the hill. I know he still at fault, just hope his employer understands all these circumstances. 
    I don't know why you have posted this. It has already been established that the police have taken no further action, so clearly there was no third party injury nor excessive speed.
    Yes, but I wasn't talking about police. Often you hit someone's back and police doesn't even come and it wouldn't  even in this case, police car was just  randomly driving past and stopped to check everything is all right, nobody even called police.
    I was asking about his disciplinary at work....what kind of actions his employer can impose by law. I wasn't asking about police.
  • LightFlare
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    The two are connected though, because if the police were taking any action then that may result in points/conviction etc which may trigger certain work disciplinary processes.

    An employer may be more inclined to treat the accident more favourable in the absence of any police action
  • JustMe18
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    edited 30 January 2024 at 3:38PM
    The two are connected though, because if the police were taking any action then that may result in points/conviction etc which may trigger certain work disciplinary processes.

    An employer may be more inclined to treat the accident more favourable in the absence of any police action
    Thank you, I understand. In fact, second lorry driver didn't have any damage, her lorry is more solid at the back, whether my husband's front is plastic, so it's damaged. Hopefully only a warning at work this time.
  • Marvel1
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    edited 31 January 2024 at 1:11AM
    JustMe18 said:
    JustMe18 said:
    sheramber said:
    Are the police taking any action?
    What kind of action?  No, of course not, police was at the scene there, they did an alcohol test ( both 0) and checked tacho. No action. 
    He was at fault leaving insufficient distance between his vehicle and the vehicle in front to enable him to stop in time. But it seems unless there was personal injury to a third party or excessive speed was involved, there is usually no further action.
    Second lorry not even a single scratch & of course no injuries, only my husband is injured and his lorry damaged. Speed all right, police checked tacho, not over a limit indeed. The was a hill before that and his lorry is heavy. 
    Distance was long enough not to even see the front lorry in front of him behind the turn. Also the fact that first lorry was rushing and overtook him on a village road and then when road traffic controller suddenly came out, she slammed her breaks to cause a smoke off her wheels. Even she admires , she had a small distance between that guy and her lorry, so she had to suddenly stop. Also it was extremely sunny ( when you can barely see ) + veeery slippery road down the hill. I know he still at fault, just hope his employer understands all these circumstances. 
    I don't know why you have posted this. It has already been established that the police have taken no further action, so clearly there was no third party injury nor excessive speed.
    They replied to this:

    JustMe18 said:
    sheramber said:
    Are the police taking any action?
    What kind of action?  No, of course not, police was at the scene there, they did an alcohol test ( both 0) and checked tacho. No action. 
    He was at fault leaving insufficient distance between his vehicle and the vehicle in front to enable him to stop in time. But it seems unless there was personal injury to a third party or excessive speed was involved, there is usually no further action.
  • JustMe18
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    Marvel1 said:
    JustMe18 said:
    JustMe18 said:
    sheramber said:
    Are the police taking any action?
    What kind of action?  No, of course not, police was at the scene there, they did an alcohol test ( both 0) and checked tacho. No action. 
    He was at fault leaving insufficient distance between his vehicle and the vehicle in front to enable him to stop in time. But it seems unless there was personal injury to a third party or excessive speed was involved, there is usually no further action.
    Second lorry not even a single scratch & of course no injuries, only my husband is injured and his lorry damaged. Speed all right, police checked tacho, not over a limit indeed. The was a hill before that and his lorry is heavy. 
    Distance was long enough not to even see the front lorry in front of him behind the turn. Also the fact that first lorry was rushing and overtook him on a village road and then when road traffic controller suddenly came out, she slammed her breaks to cause a smoke off her wheels. Even she admires , she had a small distance between that guy and her lorry, so she had to suddenly stop. Also it was extremely sunny ( when you can barely see ) + veeery slippery road down the hill. I know he still at fault, just hope his employer understands all these circumstances. 
    I don't know why you have posted this. It has already been established that the police have taken no further action, so clearly there was no third party injury nor excessive speed.
    They replied to this:

    JustMe18 said:
    sheramber said:
    Are the police taking any action?
    What kind of action?  No, of course not, police was at the scene there, they did an alcohol test ( both 0) and checked tacho. No action. 
    He was at fault leaving insufficient distance between his vehicle and the vehicle in front to enable him to stop in time. But it seems unless there was personal injury to a third party or excessive speed was involved, there is usually no further action.
    Yes someone already explained, thank you
  • Marvel1
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    edited 31 January 2024 at 1:11AM
    JustMe18 said:
    Marvel1 said:
    JustMe18 said:
    JustMe18 said:
    sheramber said:
    Are the police taking any action?
    What kind of action?  No, of course not, police was at the scene there, they did an alcohol test ( both 0) and checked tacho. No action. 
    He was at fault leaving insufficient distance between his vehicle and the vehicle in front to enable him to stop in time. But it seems unless there was personal injury to a third party or excessive speed was involved, there is usually no further action.
    Second lorry not even a single scratch & of course no injuries, only my husband is injured and his lorry damaged. Speed all right, police checked tacho, not over a limit indeed. The was a hill before that and his lorry is heavy. 
    Distance was long enough not to even see the front lorry in front of him behind the turn. Also the fact that first lorry was rushing and overtook him on a village road and then when road traffic controller suddenly came out, she slammed her breaks to cause a smoke off her wheels. Even she admires , she had a small distance between that guy and her lorry, so she had to suddenly stop. Also it was extremely sunny ( when you can barely see ) + veeery slippery road down the hill. I know he still at fault, just hope his employer understands all these circumstances. 
    I don't know why you have posted this. It has already been established that the police have taken no further action, so clearly there was no third party injury nor excessive speed.
    They replied to this:

    JustMe18 said:
    sheramber said:
    Are the police taking any action?
    What kind of action?  No, of course not, police was at the scene there, they did an alcohol test ( both 0) and checked tacho. No action. 
    He was at fault leaving insufficient distance between his vehicle and the vehicle in front to enable him to stop in time. But it seems unless there was personal injury to a third party or excessive speed was involved, there is usually no further action.
    Yes someone already explained, thank you
    Sorry fo the coinfusion, the bold part (which I have since bolded) was part of an earlier post, should be shown as a quote and not by me, tried copying and pasting quotes for my post.
  • JustMe18
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    UPDATE : thank you all for your responses, after such a long time he finally had disciplinary hearing, luckily the manager who was conducting, listened to all the circumstances ( for example speed was 27 mph, where speed limit is 50, slipper conditions, distance etc.), so my husband was issued 1st written warning for 12 months and no quarterly bonus x  2 . But that's nothing, as we were preparing for the worst !! 
  • LightFlare
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    Thanks for the update

    As you say - could have been worse.

    Hope he has or is recovering from his injuries
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