Water & waste to other side of door

DullGreyGuy

Currently in a purpose built 2000s flat on 1st floor with concrete floors and dot & dab walls with blockwork as party walls. Flat is kind of long and thin(ish) running north/south

All water/waste is on the west side with an ensuite, WC and kitchen all backing on each other. We'd like space for separate washing machine and dryer but the only way for that to be feasible is to stack them and the only place that would work is on the east side of the flat either in the kitchen end corner of the kitchen/lounge or in a hallway cupboard opposite the WC.

Is there any realistic way this could be done? Water doesn't feel insurmountable but no idea how to get waste there with the required drop. Someone did, probably jokingly, suggest putting it through the party wall and connect to the neighbours (the water meter is at building not flat level) but they've just redone their kitchen in preparation to sell/rent out and just sounds like future headaches waiting to happen.

ThisIsWeird

It would help to have a plan of the flat, clearly showing where you'd like these services to run.

But, as you've surmised, water can 'flow' uphill, but waste cannot - unless you pump it. But best avoid pumps if pos.

More info please

DullGreyGuy

Ignore the measurements, it's just crudely done by eye.... the red X are the two possible homes

ThisIsWeird

Thanks.

The floor is made from? And the waste from the sink, where does that go - through the floor by any chance?

DullGreyGuy

ThisIsWeird said:

Thanks.

The floor is made from? And the waste from the sink, where does that go - through the floor by any chance?

Floor is concrete

So the top half the property sits over our downstairs bedroom that has its own ensuite. The lower half of the property is over a void that is the residential parking. In the car park you can see a soil pipe comes down from the centre of each flat and they join with a neighbours to a single downpipe. There is also an insulated copper pipe going into the floor at a similar place which I assume is the mains supply (the overall stopcock is under the kitchen sink. 

Guess the downstairs bathroom must have a separate soil stack somewhere

aliby21

Do you have a washing machine at all at the moment?  

DullGreyGuy

We have a washer dryer thats under the draining board in the plan

aliby21

Could you put a washing machine there and just put a drier elsewhere, eg where you have a cross?  

FreeBear

DullGreyGuy said:

We have a washer dryer thats under the draining board in the plan

I fear that that may be the only reasonable location. Unless you stack them by the bathroom door an route a waste pipe through to connect to the sink.

Putting the machines where you have the red crosses would entail having to pump waste water up over head height to clear the doors. All well and good until the pump fails or the pipe springs a leak.

Eldi_Dos

Would removing the wc from 1.57 m room and turning that into utility room be a option you would consider.

DullGreyGuy

aliby21 said:

Could you put a washing machine there and just put a drier elsewhere, eg where you have a cross?  

The only problem is its then almost a worst of both worlds... both X are where cupboards currently are, if we were to stack the two machines there we get an undercounter cupboard back in exchange for losing the cupboard whereas having them unstacked we still lose the larder cupboard but don't gain the under counter.

Eldi_Dos said:

Would removing the wc from 1.57 m room and turning that into utility room be a option you would consider.

Its not one we had considered, would probably need to make the ensuite into a jack & gill style so visitors don't have to go through the main bedroom for a toilet but guess it could work... not sure what we could really do with the rest of the space in the room but then never had a laundry room