Universal Credit

Maz74

Hi All
So at the moment my adult son lives with me and I claim working tax credit as a single person. None of his details are ever asked for. 
My partner and myself are due to live together in the next couple of months with my son joining us too. I understand that my single claim will then become a joint one but my partner says that my sons income will have an affect on our claim. I cannot see it will if it hasn't for me the past 4 or so years!
Can anyone shed any light on this and does a Universal Credit claim differ from a Tax Credit claim as I am assuming that is what I will get moved across to.
Thank you in advance for any advice/hints and tips!

HillStreetBlues

Your adult son's income will not be counted in your UC claim (single or joint)

sammyjammy

HillStreetBlues said:

Your adult son's income will not be counted in your UC claim (single or joint)

Not necessarily true, in some circumstances there maybe a non dependant deduction, how old is your son and what is his income?  Working?

sammyjammy

You won't get moved over to Universal Credit you will need to make a claim for UC as will your partner, then your claims will be linked together.

Maz74

Hi HillStreetBlues
Thank you for your reply. My partner was convinced that they would take my sons income in consideration with ours, which then started to put doubts in my mind!

freesha

sammyjammy said:

HillStreetBlues said:

Your adult son's income will not be counted in your UC claim (single or joint)

Not necessarily true, in some circumstances there maybe a non dependant deduction, how old is your son and what is his income?  Working?

A NDD is for the son simply living there, not what his income is.

HillStreetBlues

sammyjammy said:

HillStreetBlues said:

Your adult son's income will not be counted in your UC claim (single or joint)

Not necessarily true, in some circumstances there maybe a non dependant deduction, how old is your son and what is his income?  Working?

Income doesn't matter with UC  only HB as it's a set rate under UC
There might be deduction on the claim  but income  has no bearing.

sammyjammy

HillStreetBlues said:

sammyjammy said:

HillStreetBlues said:

Your adult son's income will not be counted in your UC claim (single or joint)

Not necessarily true, in some circumstances there maybe a non dependant deduction, how old is your son and what is his income?  Working?

Income doesn't matter with UC  only HB as it's a set rate under UC
There might be deduction on the claim  but income  has no bearing.

It does matter as dependant on what the income son has is made up of (if he has one) they maybe exempt from a deduction, for example he maybe receiving carers allowance, be away in the forces etc.

HillStreetBlues

sammyjammy said:

HillStreetBlues said:

sammyjammy said:

HillStreetBlues said:

Your adult son's income will not be counted in your UC claim (single or joint)

Not necessarily true, in some circumstances there maybe a non dependant deduction, how old is your son and what is his income?  Working?

Income doesn't matter with UC  only HB as it's a set rate under UC
There might be deduction on the claim  but income  has no bearing.

It does matter as dependant on what the income son has is made up of (if he has one) they maybe exempt from a deduction, for example he maybe receiving carers allowance, be away in the forces etc.

It's still nothing to do with income, it's what age or what benefits that person might be on.
If a person get CA then there in no deduction, it doesn't matter how much money (income) CA pays.

It will make it confusing to OP  trying to use a convoluted way to  asking about income, when it's just better to ask if they are on certain benefits
(you asked about his income, not what his income was based on)

A guide here https://www.entitledto.co.uk/help/non-dependants

Universal Credit

Under Universal Credit rules there is a flat rate contribution (deduction) each month regardless of the non-dependant's income, for 2023/24 this is £85.73 a month.

 

poppy12345

Maz74 said:

Hi All
So at the moment my adult son lives with me and I claim working tax credit as a single person. None of his details are ever asked for. 
My partner and myself are due to live together in the next couple of months with my son joining us too. I understand that my single claim will then become a joint one but my partner says that my sons income will have an affect on our claim. I cannot see it will if it hasn't for me the past 4 or so years!
Can anyone shed any light on this and does a Universal Credit claim differ from a Tax Credit claim as I am assuming that is what I will get moved across to.
Thank you in advance for any advice/hints and tips!

If you live with your partner in the future your Tax credits will end. You will then both need to make a claim for UC, whether there's any entitlement will depend on your joint circumstances.

peteuk

And just to prove the reverse.  My 19 Yr old son lives with me, since the end of his contract in October he has been claiming UC.  His claim does not take into account either mine or my wife’s wage or my pension.

Akin to your claim not taking into account his income.  If you transition from WTC to UC before your partner moves in, when they do it will be a change in circumstances and you will loose any transitional rights/protection applied to your UC.   Obviously if you do get the notification of transition, your TC stops at the end of the three months and it is up to you to claim UC.  It is not automatically done.