Kia xceed first edition DCT gearbox ?

photome

Going to look at the above tomorrow, I know nothing about the gearboxes, anyone know if they are any good/reliable ?

any other comments on the model appreciated 

It is 4 years old so does have 3 year Kia warranty left on it

daveyjp

Owners club websites are always the best source of information about specific issues such as this.

You need confirmation the car has a full service history before assuming it benefits from the 7 year warranty.

sheslookinhot

As above, but also check the services re miles or time.

photome

daveyjp said:

Owners club websites are always the best source of information about specific issues such as this.

You need confirmation the car has a full service history before assuming it benefits from the 7 year warranty.

It does have full Kia  ( I think) history  and is from a Kia dealer ,will check out the owners clubs, thanks

born_again

Make sure that the service book is there & fully stamped. Kia do not have a central database of services.
Missed by over 1K miles or a Month. Then warranty is void.

https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kwcms/kme/uk/en/assets/static/owners/service-maintenance/Kia_UK_Service_Intervals.pdf

https://www.kia.com/uk/owners/faqs/warranty/

If your Kia car is not serviced by a Kia dealer or Authorised repairer we recommend:
• The garage completing the service is VAT registered.
• The service must be carried out correctly as detailed in the owner’s manual.
• Only genuine Kia parts and lubricants as recommended by Kia or equivalent quality must be used.
• The part numbers used should be detailed on the service invoice.
• The oil type and grade used should be detailed on the service invoice.
• Service records in the warranty booklet must be stamped and dated.



Had no issues with DCT box on Niro.

photome

born_again said:

Make sure that the service book is there & fully stamped. Kia do not have a central database of services.
Missed by over 1K miles or a Month. Then warranty is void.

https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kwcms/kme/uk/en/assets/static/owners/service-maintenance/Kia_UK_Service_Intervals.pdf

https://www.kia.com/uk/owners/faqs/warranty/

If your Kia car is not serviced by a Kia dealer or Authorised repairer we recommend:
• The garage completing the service is VAT registered.
• The service must be carried out correctly as detailed in the owner’s manual.
• Only genuine Kia parts and lubricants as recommended by Kia or equivalent quality must be used.
• The part numbers used should be detailed on the service invoice.
• The oil type and grade used should be detailed on the service invoice.
• Service records in the warranty booklet must be stamped and dated.



Had no issues with DCT box on Niro.

The Kia dealer is advertising it with full service history and a Kia warranty till 2027

the dates of the services were on autotrader but I can’t find the ad any more

photome

born_again said:

Make sure that the service book is there & fully stamped. Kia do not have a central database of services.
Missed by over 1K miles or a Month. Then warranty is void.

https://www.kia.com/content/dam/kwcms/kme/uk/en/assets/static/owners/service-maintenance/Kia_UK_Service_Intervals.pdf

https://www.kia.com/uk/owners/faqs/warranty/

If your Kia car is not serviced by a Kia dealer or Authorised repairer we recommend:
• The garage completing the service is VAT registered.
• The service must be carried out correctly as detailed in the owner’s manual.
• Only genuine Kia parts and lubricants as recommended by Kia or equivalent quality must be used.
• The part numbers used should be detailed on the service invoice.
• The oil type and grade used should be detailed on the service invoice.
• Service records in the warranty booklet must be stamped and dated.



Had no issues with DCT box on Niro.

Have driven the car now, it’s very nice, gearbox feels great…colour is a bit in your face as it’s the yellow/gold , it has more toys on it than I know what to with

but first service was done feb 21, second service June 22 , 11000 miles apart, dealer is sure that the warranty remains valid, I am not so convinced , am waiting on a more definite answer next week but I think it’s a gamble

luci

How are you liking your XCeed DCT now photome? Did you resolve the warranty issue? I got my Focus serviced every 12 months to maintain the warranty, as I didn't reach the 12500 miles / year. I had it done at a local independent, who knew it needed genuine Ford parts and, most importantly, the special oil an Ecoboost needs.

I am taking delivery of an XCeed 1.5 GDi GT-line S DCT this week. I haven't driven it yet so hope I like it, but have only read good things about it.

photome

luci said:

How are you liking your XCeed DCT now photome? Did you resolve the warranty issue? I got my Focus serviced every 12 months to maintain the warranty, as I didn't reach the 12500 miles / year. I had it done at a local independent, who knew it needed genuine Ford parts and, most importantly, the special oil an Ecoboost needs.

I am taking delivery of an XCeed 1.5 GDi GT-line S DCT this week. I haven't driven it yet so hope I like it, but have only read good things about it.

I didn’t buy it, and had forgotten this thread… garage did confirm in writing the warranty would be valid but we ended up buying a SEAT Ateca instead

luci

Why did you decide against buying it, was it the colour? Hope you are liking your SEAT.

Your thread has still been useful, as it made me look at the Kia owner's club forum as suggested by davejp. Just spent a couple of hours browsing there and picked up a lot of info.

Goudy

If it's the 7 speed DCT I seem to think that is Kia/Hyundai's own in house gearbox.

It's designed to handle more torque than the old 6 speed TC and I think first appeared on the 1.6 CRDi engines from around 2015/16.

DCT gearboxes are generally very smooth with almost instant changes though sometimes the software that runs them aren't always as good as the next brands software.

This can lead to some occasional thumping downward changes when they gets flustered, like slowing to almost a stop and then accelerating quickly, say the lights change just as you car coming to a stop.
If it's in between perfect ratios, they can tend to thump in a low change if it detects the rpm is too low.

Engines with higher torque seem to suffer a bit less as the programming seems to allow them to over come this, knowing there's more torque to pull a slightly higher gear.

I think some Kia owners have complained about their DCTs, but a lot of this sort of thing is due to how it's driven.

DCT gearboxes in general are capable for some sporty driving but unless they have some sort of sports mode or manual override (paddles) they are generally set up for economy/emissions.

This tends to cause them to try and hang in higher gears as much as possible.
So late braking and trying to get on the power early won't be their strong point.

My Clio has a 7 speed wet clutch DCT and it's a pleasure to drive, by far one of the best auto's I've driven.
There's little of the above fluster (maybe I got used to driving it), it's economical and pretty spritely off the line., though it can hold onto a low gear first thing in the morning for a little longer than I except, maybe to help warm it up.

One thing I notice now more than anything is this hanging on to higher gears.
I've been using a Zoe for work these last few weeks and in the Clio I can lift off the throttle and glide much much further when approaching traffic lights etc as it holds each gear as it slowly changes down.

If I try it in the Zoe, a split second after I lift my foot off the regen kicks in and it's slowing at a much faster rate, so much so I know I'll be a hundred metres or more short of where I'd end up in the Clio.
This means I have to get back on the peddle again to get me there.

It's actually quite pronounced between the two, but I also notice it when I drive manuals, probably because they have one or two less gear ratios so the engine braking tends to be more noticeable.