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Charge in disabled bay - parked awkwardly

Hello

I received the charge yesterday.
I don't think I stand a chance of winning an appeal, but thought I'd check here.

On a retail park, I was parked in a disabled bay (blue badge not the problem as was displayed)

The stated offence from the 16th is 'Not Parked Wholly within bay' which was true.

I tried to park better, but as I swung the car around, I had to swing wider, as 'Next' have a black card triangular ad over the end bollard which sticks out quite a bit.
I couldn't reverse out and better manoeuvre, as the queues of cars behind me at the time meant I couldn't reverse and try.
Once I was in, I was stuck in that position if that makes sense, and to make matters worse and due to incontinence issues, I was about to have an accident. I dashed into Costa inside Next to use their toilet.

I came out, and the car park was still rammed with queues of Xmas shopper cars, so didn't attempt to move the car. 
I went into Home Bargains and made purchases there before leaving an hour later. 

I've circled the black triangular carded things that Next place over the thinner bollards - it's the first rear end one that caused the problem for me.

Is there any hope for me here please?
If not, then so be it. £60 is the discounted charge if I pay within the next 7 days. It might be worth a try. 

I'm always so careful not to park on the lines as well. Just my luck!

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  • Brie
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    I'd be talking to Next and ask them if they could get the notice cancelled because they had placed their signs so awkwardly.
    "Never retract, never explain, never apologise; get things done and let them howl.”
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 23 December 2023 at 6:51PM
    You are parked properly as that's not a double-sided accessible bay.

    It's narrow, so on order to open the car doors, every car would have to be on the yellow bit (which is part of an accessible bay on private land).  You aren't outside of the bays.

    If course you don't PAY private parking firms!  You realise these aren't fines?

    Get the Next manager to cancel it for you next time you are in.  Or the manager of the shops you used. They will.

    Or the retail park managers will.  I don't mean the parking firm thugs!

    DO NOT PAY THE £60 nor look at the scary 'deadlines' on the fake PCN.

    Show a picture of it to us, minus your data and car VRM.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top of this/any page where it says:
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  • Brie said:
    I'd be talking to Next and ask them if they could get the notice cancelled because they had placed their signs so awkwardly.

    I can try, but last spring, I went over time outside Lidls by about 15 mins, as my little grandchild was really poorly. I was in a disabled bay with her.

    I went in a few days later to ask for help, and the manager face to face told me there was nothing he could do for me. I even pleaded.

    I did appeal, but still had to pay. 

  • Coupon-mad
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    Brie said:
    I'd be talking to Next and ask them if they could get the notice cancelled because they had placed their signs so awkwardly.

    I can try, but last spring, I went over time outside Lidls by about 15 mins, as my little grandchild was really poorly. I was in a disabled bay with her.

    I went in a few days later to ask for help, and the manager face to face told me there was nothing he could do for me. I even pleaded.

    I did appeal, but still had to pay. 

    No you didn't.  Disabled people are allowed longer, by law.  What made you think you had to pay a private parking charge? 

    NEVER pay another one.
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
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  • Brie said:
    I'd be talking to Next and ask them if they could get the notice cancelled because they had placed their signs so awkwardly.

    I can try, but last spring, I went over time outside Lidls by about 15 mins, as my little grandchild was really poorly. I was in a disabled bay with her.

    I went in a few days later to ask for help, and the manager face to face told me there was nothing he could do for me. I even pleaded.

    I did appeal, but still had to pay. 

    No you didn't.  Disabled people are allowed longer, by law.  What made you think you had to pay a private parking charge? 

    NEVER pay another one.
    Ignoring private parking charges used to work more so in the past, but not now.
    It's a gamble that doesn't always pay off for everyone. 
    I can't take the risk of the cost going into the hundreds amount, as it does for some people who've binned the letters on advice that these firms will just go away. 

    The 'not knowing' what the costs could increase to would kill me anxiety wise. I know this does happen.

    I'll go to Next after Xmas and hope they will intervene on my behalf. 

  • KeithP
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    edited 23 December 2023 at 11:26PM
    Brie said:
    I'd be talking to Next and ask them if they could get the notice cancelled because they had placed their signs so awkwardly.
    I can try, but last spring, I went over time outside Lidls by about 15 mins, as my little grandchild was really poorly. I was in a disabled bay with her.

    I went in a few days later to ask for help, and the manager face to face told me there was nothing he could do for me. I even pleaded.
    Does that manager who once worked at Lidl now work for Next?
    That's really unlucky. What a coincidence.     ;)
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 24 December 2023 at 12:13AM

    I can try, but last spring, I went over time outside Lidls by about 15 mins, as my little grandchild was really poorly. I was in a disabled bay with her.

    I went in a few days later to ask for help, and the manager face to face told me there was nothing he could do for me. I even pleaded.

    I did appeal, but still had to pay. 

    No you didn't.  Disabled people are allowed longer, by law.  What made you think you had to pay a private parking charge? 

    NEVER pay another one.
    Ignoring private parking charges used to work more so in the past, but not now. . 
    That's not true. We know what we are talking about. But I'm not telling you to ignore it.  

    "It's a gamble that doesn't always pay off for everyone."

    Yes it does. You won't be paying.  We know what we are doing.  You should never have paid the ParkingEye one.

    I can't take the risk of the cost going into the hundreds amount, as it does for some people who've binned the letters on advice that these firms will just go away.
    But you can.  Because you won't pay it even if they send a court claim.  You defend and win.  Easy.  No risk.

    The 'not knowing' what the costs could increase to would kill me anxiety wise. I know this does happen.
    No it doesn't.

    Believe us.  We help people defend these every day.  And we win.

    Your ParkingEye one would have been £175 (not hundreds) if they filed a claim, and you'd have won the case because you are protected by the Equality Act 2010 and we'd have helped you add that to the Template Defence. No risk.  No CCJ.  Not hundreds at stake . Easy to win.

    Same with this one.
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  • KeithP said:
    Brie said:
    I'd be talking to Next and ask them if they could get the notice cancelled because they had placed their signs so awkwardly.
    I can try, but last spring, I went over time outside Lidls by about 15 mins, as my little grandchild was really poorly. I was in a disabled bay with her.

    I went in a few days later to ask for help, and the manager face to face told me there was nothing he could do for me. I even pleaded.
    Does that manager who once worked at Lidl now work for Next?
    That's really unlucky. What a coincidence.     ;)
    😏 The point I was making, is that some store managers won't help. I will try with this one and see.
  • 1505grandad
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    Also get your MP involved.
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