Converting old Video Camcorder tapes to MP4

I want to convert video from two old camcorders

One is an analog, Hi-8 I think, it probably has just analog RCA port, so I am guessing I need some sort of AV port and to record it in real time to a PC?

I think the other is digital (Mini DV I think, it recorded onto some sort of card or onto re writable mini DVD's, probably Panasonic, it has some sort of port but not sure how one would connect to another device.

I once found a cable that plugged between it and a DVD recorder with hard disk but there was nothing happened when I plugged it in, I think the port was firewire.

Do I need some sort of card for a PC for the firewire 1394 or is there an adaptor to Sata?

Most importantly, do I need software to do the conversion of the DV data or are the files visible as some sort of mounted drive and easy to copy to a hard disk on the PC?


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