New internal team lead roles - advice on applying?

anonymous12124

El_Torro said:

The hiring managers might remember your comments. 

Your judgement might be a bit clouded at the moment. Would you have taken the role if successful? If so then maybe you are more disillusioned about the rejection than the role itself. 

I was going to give it a try. I didn't want the position for the responsibilities but rather what it could open me up to in the future. If you don't try it how can you know if you're cut out for it or not. Whilst I have a rough idea of what their resonsibilties are, unless you do it day in day out you won't know.

The hiring managers in this department I'm not too bothered about, but at the company yes I need to be careful with my wording and Grumpy_chap's message above is a good idea.

anonymous12124

oldernonethewiser said:

I worked with a person who was very good at their job and applied for and got promotion.  Six months later he stepped back into his former role as he wasn't comfortable or able to handle leadership aspects of the job.

Going back to your original post, did you actually send in a CV?  If so one additional bit of feedback I would have given is why are you not able to follow simple instuctions?

What put me off was when they said you would be involved in the disciplinary and performance reviews for the team but you would not be responsible or involved with the hiring process. Normally in the company the senior manager, 2 levels up would do both. I guess I'd be both with both or neither, but not one or the other.

My line manager advised me to send my CV but I didn't. I went with my gut feeling and just wrote 3 simple paragraphs.

anonymous12124

Jude57 said:

However, it's definitely worth thinking about the feedback you've been given and considering your communication style. You may prefer a more formal style which, if that's at odds with your employer's corporate style, might seem grating to some colleagues. It's also worth thinking about your relationship with colleagues. Is it collegial, co-operative and supportive? Could you improve that area in any way?

Thanks for the post.

Regarding this question. Well almost everyone who works with me will say I'm probably one of the funnier guys are work with a very relaxed attitude. Those who don't know me think I'm very serious/strict. My line manager told me he didn't realise I was as friendly as I am. It was only after time and building a relationship he realised I am the most approachable guy in the team. Upper management and those not working with me on a day to day basis have a different view.

So my problem isn't so much my communication I think -  it's probably the first impression people have of me. I recently change my work profile and linkedin photo to one where I'm smiling and in casual clothes but maybe there's a lot more work to be done in this regard.

oldernonethewiser

anonymous12124 said:

oldernonethewiser said:

I worked with a person who was very good at their job and applied for and got promotion.  Six months later he stepped back into his former role as he wasn't comfortable or able to handle leadership aspects of the job.

Going back to your original post, did you actually send in a CV?  If so one additional bit of feedback I would have given is why are you not able to follow simple instuctions?

What put me off was when they said you would be involved in the disciplinary and performance reviews for the team but you would not be responsible or involved with the hiring process. Normally in the company the senior manager, 2 levels up would do both. I guess I'd be both with both or neither, but not one or the other.

My line manager advised me to send my CV but I didn't. I went with my gut feeling and just wrote 3 simple paragraphs.

I think you were wise to ignore what your line manager said. 

Sounds like the job involved you being responsible for people who have been recruited by others which can lead to all sorts of conflicts. Not necessarily major but potentially annoying.

As already said, say thanks for the feedback and nothing more. 

All the best.