I made an error

Greg89

I had the 15-17th off due to ill health and my supervisor did use them as holidays.

However mistakenly just now, I've emailed payroll asking how much I would get paid or I if get sick pay for the days off. payroll knows now I've had days off due to illness.

My supervisor was going to use them as holiday days.

My supervisor then goes he cannot apply the holidays because I've emailed payroll now stating I've had days off sick.

He did say he will try to sort it out etc. He told me not to email payroll anymore.

I don't know if it's too late now. I know at my friend's workplaces they get full pay and get sick pay for days off sick regardless of day.

Can it still be sorted? He was going to use my days off sick, as holidays, and I have too much holidays remaining. However I shouldn't have and mistakenly emailed payroll saying I've had sick days off and how much I would get paid after all that.

However even if they know I'm sick, people have said I could email HR and use them as holiday days. Or have the possibility of using them as holidays.

MorningcoffeeIV

Greg89 said:

My supervisor, for my days off, used them as holidays. I had 15-17th off, maybe he should've just put down as holidays right there, right then.

Can you clarify what this means?

It's exceptionally confusing.

Greg89

MorningcoffeeIV said:

Greg89 said:

My supervisor, for my days off, used them as holidays. I had 15-17th off, maybe he should've just put down as holidays right there, right then.

Can you clarify what this means?

It's exceptionally confusing.

Hi

I had the 15-17th off due to ill health. My supervisor said he'd use them as holidays. He said on the 15th he'd use them as holidays.

However I mistakenly emailed payroll today saying how much would I get after my days off ill or if I if entitled sick pay. And payroll emailed my supervisor.y supervisor told them nothing.

My supervisor will try and sort it out, however he says because I said I had days off sick to payroll, he cannot use the holidays to cover those days anymore. However he will try to sort it out.

Others said I can still email HR and maybe use them as holidays.

I don't know if the situation can still be saved. Would be ridiculous way to lose £300.

MorningcoffeeIV

Ok - so you were off work ill, you told HR you were off work ill and they have marked it down as you being off work ill.

There doesn't appear to be anything 'ridiculous' about that.  Don't go emailing HR to start changing your story. 

Greg89

MorningcoffeeIV said:

Ok - so you were off work ill, you told HR you were off work ill and they have marked it down as you being off work ill.

There doesn't appear to be anything 'ridiculous' about that.  Don't go emailing HR to start changing your story. 

I was off work ill, I told my supervisor that. I never told HR.

However my supervisor was going to use them days off as holiday days. Now that I've emailed payroll, I'm unsure if they can still apply this. I was told I could tell them to use those sick days as holiday days.

I'm not changing my story.

I think my supervisor marked me down as holiday days and now payroll knows I've had days off sick, I'm not sure if he can sort it out, to use them sick days as holidays.

Grumpy_chap

Could it be possible that someone (either the boss or HR) think you are trying to claim holidays and sick for the same days?
Any day can only be either holiday or sick, not both.  From an employment perspective that is - obviously some people are ill while on holiday.
What are the sickness rules where you work?

Marcon

Greg89 said:

MorningcoffeeIV said:

Ok - so you were off work ill, you told HR you were off work ill and they have marked it down as you being off work ill.

There doesn't appear to be anything 'ridiculous' about that.  Don't go emailing HR to start changing your story. 

I was off work ill, I told my supervisor that. I never told HR.

However my supervisor was going to use them days off as holiday days. Now that I've emailed payroll, I'm unsure if they can still apply this. I was told I could tell them to use those sick days as holiday days.

I'm not changing my story.

I think my supervisor marked me down as holiday days and now payroll knows I've had days off sick, I'm not sure if he can sort it out, to use them sick days as holidays.

Your emails are very confusingly worded, so possibly talking to your supervisor again, when you've given him time to try and sort out your mess, might be more like to produce the outcome you're hoping for.

Soot2006

You're allowed to be sick when you're on annual leave (just like you're allowed to take annual leave while on longer term sick leave). Nothing forces you to be healthy while on holiday. If your line manager approved annual leave for those days (you state you have leave days to use up), I imagine the conversation went something like:

 "I am not coming to work. I am sick".

 "You have annual leave to use up anyway. I am happy to approve leave at short notice. Don't worry about filling in a self-cert."

 "OK thanks"

Then you possibly confused matters by bringing up SSP with Payroll, but it should be easy enough for your line manager to set straight.

Greg89

Soot2006 said:

You're allowed to be sick when you're on annual leave (just like you're allowed to take annual leave while on longer term sick leave). Nothing forces you to be healthy while on holiday. If your line manager approved annual leave for those days (you state you have leave days to use up), I imagine the conversation went something like:

 "I am not coming to work. I am sick".

 "You have annual leave to use up anyway. I am happy to approve leave at short notice. Don't worry about filling in a self-cert."

 "OK thanks"

Then you possibly confused matters by bringing up SSP with Payroll, but it should be easy enough for your line manager to set straight.

That's how the conversation went. 

I didn't book holidays for the days, however my supervisor decided to use my days off ill as holiday days.

He did say for the days off I had ill, he will use them as holiday days, since I have 20 days left for three months. I have 28 days annual leave.

However I unfortunately today brought up how much I will get paid, stating I had days off ill to payroll, if my pay will get adjusted or if I will get paid sick pay (which they wanted the attention of the supervisor) the supervisor stated I shouldn't have emailed payroll.

He will try to get it sorted.

400ixl

Is this not a case of if you are paid for sick days then you should claim that way, if not then take them as holiday.

HR should have no issues with that at all and it is common practice in places where someone would only get statutory sick pay, but wanted to ensure they got their full pay.

Greg89

400ixl said:

Is this not a case of if you are paid for sick days then you should claim that way, if not then take them as holiday.

HR should have no issues with that at all and it is common practice in places where someone would only get statutory sick pay, but wanted to ensure they got their full pay.

Thanks

My supervisor did phone me saying I shouldn't have emailed payroll stating I had days off ill and how much I would get sick pay. It won't affect at the end of this month's paycheck. 

My supervisor did mark me for those days down as holiday days to cover my illness. He said I made a mistake emailing payroll re above. He said he will try to sort it out.