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  • yes it's called a fit note, not a sick note you get it only when doctors say you can return to work.

     that employer sounds horrible. are they qualified doctors, for goodness sake?
    Medical certificates can be referred to as either a sick note or a fit note.  
    Doctors can issue a fit/sick note when you are not fit to return to work.
  • Bradden
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    yes it's called a fit note, not a sick note you get it only when doctors say you can return to work.

     that employer sounds horrible. are they qualified doctors, for goodness sake?
    Medical certificates can be referred to as either a sick note or a fit note.  
    Doctors can issue a fit/sick note when you are not fit to return to work.
    I beleive it's actuallly caslled a "Statement of Fitness to Work" 

    https://www.nhs.uk/common-health-questions/caring-carers-and-long-term-conditions/when-do-i-need-a-fit-note/
  • Andy_L
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    you don't want to work for the royal mail. they have a clause in the contract that gives them the right to  sack you if you have been off sick on a certain number of occasions in any one year

    it's to do with causing a disruption to the delivery of mail service, even if you have a doctors note.

    it was better in their eyes to have  3 weeks off in one  occasion.only,  than it was to have  4 separate occasions of say  3 days off at a time  in any one year.

     that was a few years back as a postman. can anyone confirm if they still have that rule.
    any employer can sack you for to much time off sick
  • elsien
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    Bradden said:
    Just to give a different perspective. The manager may be refusing to send the employee home whilst not refusing for them to go off sick.. It's a small difference in law but if an employer sends staff home they cannot count it as absence. 
    That is a good point. I did sometimes have staff wanting me to tell them to go home, (not for anything obviously infectious, just when they were drooping around the place) and I used to say it was their decision whether to stay or go but if they stayed they needed to stop drooping and start working. Or words to that effect. 

    All shall be well, and all shall be well, and all manner of things shall be well.

    Pedant alert - it's could have, not could of.
  • EnPointe
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    you don't want to work for the royal mail. they have a clause in the contract that gives them the right to  sack you if you have been off sick on a certain number of occasions in any one year

    it's to do with causing a disruption to the delivery of mail service, even if you have a doctors note.

    it was better in their eyes to have  3 weeks off in one  occasion.only,  than it was to have  4 separate occasions of say  3 days off at a time  in any one year.

     that was a few years back as a postman. can anyone confirm if they still have that rule.
    you appear to misunderstanding  fairly common  attendance management and capability policies 

  • Savvy_Sue
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    elsien said:
    Bradden said:
    Just to give a different perspective. The manager may be refusing to send the employee home whilst not refusing for them to go off sick.. It's a small difference in law but if an employer sends staff home they cannot count it as absence. 
    That is a good point. I did sometimes have staff wanting me to tell them to go home, (not for anything obviously infectious, just when they were drooping around the place) and I used to say it was their decision whether to stay or go but if they stayed they needed to stop drooping and start working. Or words to that effect. 

    Fair point, but OP says son was "not allowed" to leave.

    Although on the rare occasions I threw up at work, or could not stand without holding on to walls, no-one could have kept me there longer than it took DH to come for me ... (It was labyrinthitis, I'd feel OK first thing, not so much later.)
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  • stu12345_2
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    edited 12 December 2023 at 11:52PM
    my work mate is 67 and has so many ailments.he was off work for 3 months with pneumonia. then doesn't come in when the pavement is icy incase he falls. he has been there for 10 years. I complained to boss I was fed up covering for him by having to do his job and mines. the answer I got was he is old and not very well . he has COPD and 3 years ago. he had a heart attack at work and kept on working. during shift. he did not know it was a heart attack he had had. just large pain in chest. unbelievable., but true.
     he works so slowly, his work standards are poor. but work refuse to get rid of him.
     he told me he rents private and his OAP pension won't cover it, so he works part time at work. 

    I said to my boss, in the job application it states do you have any ailments and if he was applying today he wouldn't even get an interview.
    but bosses don't care what ailments you get once you've been in a long time, if your face fits, I guess
    pay your debt at your rate.not what the creditor demands.cos they have no power.they aren't the police.
  • my work mate is 67 and has so many ailments.he was off work for 3 months with pneumonia. then doesn't come in when the pavement is icy incase he falls. he has been there for 10 years. I complained to boss I was fed up covering for him by having to do his job and mines. the answer I got was he is old and not very well . he has COPD and 3 years ago. he had a heart attack at work and kept on working. during shift. he did not know it was a heart attack he had had. just large pain in chest. unbelievable., but true.
     he works so slowly, his work standards are poor. but work refuse to get rid of him.
     he told me he rents private and his OAP pension won't cover it, so he works part time at work. 

    I said to my boss, in the job application it states do you have any ailments and if he was applying today he wouldn't even get an interview.
    but bosses don't care what ailments you get once you've been in a long time, if your face fits, I guess
    How many firms have you owned or run? 
  • stu12345_2
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    edited 13 December 2023 at 10:09AM
    basically the bosses know he rents private and will always struggle for money . so they let the amount of times he has been off sick as a  second thought .my point about not getting an interview was a general comment, as  in the job description it states must  you must be physically fit to cope with the demands of the job. and if he was applying today, he doesn't meet the standards of being able to  the job, due to his ailments 
    pay your debt at your rate.not what the creditor demands.cos they have no power.they aren't the police.
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