Saving heat with carpets?

markin

QrizB said:

markin said:

Used a a calculator and it recommended 2 600x 1400,  At 12,053 BTU each

Which calculator was that?

That's a *lot* of radiator. 12000 BTU/hr is about 4kW, so you're suggesting the room needs 8kW of heat!

At delta 50c it said 2.5kwh, i think.

https://www.stelrad.com/basic-heat-loss-calculator/

The current rad installed is 90x60 and struggles to hit 20c, Nursing homes are usually hot at around 26c.

moneysaver

michael079 said:

Yeah I worried about spillages, and also the Sara steady machine they use to transfer her sometimes, I don't know what that will be like on carpet, but I guess it must work for others, as long as get the right carpet

I work in an job that comes across steady machines at home regularly. A lot of the times the machines are very difficult to move about on carpet, also some carers will not use one if a carpet is in place. It might be best to ask the carers what there policy is on using a steady with carpet.

Moneysaver

badmemory

My thoughts also were a larger radiator.  Have you priced carpet with a good underlay?  It is possible that double glazing may come in cheaper anyway & not cause problems for carers.

calleyw

for single glazed windows get those secondary glazing plastic film packs.  In a flat that I had years ago my husband made up a wooden frame to fit and put that film on then popped it in the window recess.  That helped stop draughts from the window

FreeBear

markin said: Rad is undersized or the room would be 30c! Used a a calculator and it recommended 2 600x 1400,  At 12,053 BTU each

"Room is 17 square metres and 2.64cm height."

My lounge is of a similar size. The Stelrad calculator suggests 6300BTU is sufficient (if I select single glazed windows, this increases to 7000BTU). A 600mm x 1200mm Type 22 fits the bill quite nicely without being hugely expensive (radiator prices jump by quite a bit over 1200mm wide).

https://www.screwfix.com/p/flomasta-type-22-double-panel-double-convector-radiator-600mm-x-1200mm-white-6998btu/612xp at £71 (collection only).

https://www.cityplumbing.co.uk/p/halcyon-by-stelrad-k2-compact-double-panel-radiator-600-x-1200-mm/p/233002 at £79 including delivery.

MarzipanCrumble

Its all about keeping your mother warm.  As she suffers from Parkinsons dressing maynot be easy for her.  

Carpets I think would exclude draughts from gaps (skirting boards/floor boards) but have you looked also at simple clothing solutions - thermal, shawls, sheepwool slippers?

I wear a belted shawl, a hat and thermals (I feel draughts, the cold and am mean with the heating so my bad).  But my toastie feet due to sheepwool bootee slippers helps considerably.  My feet feel warm as soon as I put them on.

So I know that your mother would find putting on sheepwool bootee slippers difficult.  But what about merino wool socks:
https://www.sockshop.co.uk/shop/specialist/merino-wool-socks

I also find a large shawl (about 15-30£) belted at the waist great for warming back and shoulders.  You can get at most cheap clothing stores.  Or a feather stuffed gillet?

markin

FreeBear said:

markin said: Rad is undersized or the room would be 30c! Used a a calculator and it recommended 2 600x 1400,  At 12,053 BTU each

"Room is 17 square metres and 2.64cm height."

My lounge is of a similar size. The Stelrad calculator suggests 6300BTU is sufficient (if I select single glazed windows, this increases to 7000BTU). A 600mm x 1200mm Type 22 fits the bill quite nicely without being hugely expensive (radiator prices jump by quite a bit over 1200mm wide).

https://www.screwfix.com/p/flomasta-type-22-double-panel-double-convector-radiator-600mm-x-1200mm-white-6998btu/612xp at £71 (collection only).

https://www.cityplumbing.co.uk/p/halcyon-by-stelrad-k2-compact-double-panel-radiator-600-x-1200-mm/p/233002 at £79 including delivery.

The difference from the current rad at 60x900mm and 1200 is only 500w, So i feel 2x 900, or 2x 1200 would be a safer bet.

michael079

moneysaver said:

michael079 said:

Yeah I worried about spillages, and also the Sara steady machine they use to transfer her sometimes, I don't know what that will be like on carpet, but I guess it must work for others, as long as get the right carpet

I work in an job that comes across steady machines at home regularly. A lot of the times the machines are very difficult to move about on carpet, also some carers will not use one if a carpet is in place. It might be best to ask the carers what there policy is on using a steady with carpet.

Moneysaver

Do you know what was the reason they wouldn't use it on a carpet? 

michael079

badmemory said:

My thoughts also were a larger radiator.  Have you priced carpet with a good underlay?  It is possible that double glazing may come in cheaper anyway & not cause problems for carers.

I've priced carpet and underlay and fititnf at under £500. Double glazing is going to be £2000 upwards? 

moneysaver

michael079 said:

moneysaver said:

michael079 said:

Yeah I worried about spillages, and also the Sara steady machine they use to transfer her sometimes, I don't know what that will be like on carpet, but I guess it must work for others, as long as get the right carpet

I work in an job that comes across steady machines at home regularly. A lot of the times the machines are very difficult to move about on carpet, also some carers will not use one if a carpet is in place. It might be best to ask the carers what there policy is on using a steady with carpet.

Moneysaver

Do you know what was the reason they wouldn't use it on a carpet? 

The steady machine is harder to move on carpet against using it on laminate etc, so some people do not like to use it that way( not sure if it is a company policy).

Moneysaver