Raffle prizes, is this ok or not?

Olinda99

if the prize was displayed when people bought tickets then of course you can't susequently take it out of the prizes and sell it separately

RefluentBeans

Raffles and Tombolas are a weird thing in the law. They are technically lotteries but the laws surrounding lotteries are not regularly enforced, as long as the intention is good. 

I do think this does somewhat fall foul of the rules, but a work around would be to contact the people who bought a ticket based on the prize being available before being withdrawn, and offer a refund (knowing that most people will not care). 

The thing is most people will enter the raffle with no expectation to win, but to do it to give to charity/the cause you’re raising money for. Those people may not have even noticed the prizes on the table. 

The person who is moaning - is she a staff member/organiser of the raffle? If so, then a separate workaround could be to exclude anyone who is involved in the organisation from participating - to prevent it from looking there’s favouritism. 

Like I said - there’s rules, but from I understand it’s the intention of the organisers that’s the most important. 

Aylesbury_Duck

Olinda99 said:

if the price was displayed when people bought tickets then of course you can't susequently take it out of the prizes and sell it separately

Well clearly they can, because they have.  It's down to a busybody to challenge it legally if they want to.

RefluentBeans

Aylesbury_Duck said:

Olinda99 said:

if the price was displayed when people bought tickets then of course you can't susequently take it out of the prizes and sell it separately

Well clearly they can, because they have.  It's down to a busybody to challenge it legally if they want to.

And I don’t even think withdrawing a prize offering is illegal - as long as anyone who bought a ticket with that in mind has an option to a refund. 

Personally I’ve never entered a raffle because of the prizes on offer - if I really wanted a nick back for £10 I would go and buy one! Clearly different for prize draws (‘your dream trip to the Caribbean’ but that’s a different kettle of fish than a small £10 prize raffle) 

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swingaloo said:

Me personally, no. However one of the ladies who work in the shop is up in arms about the item being sold and is banding the word 'Fraud' around saying that some people will only have ought tickets because they hoped to win that particular prize.

She simply needs to a get a life! 

baser999

Agree with @ Baron_Dale. Beggars belief at times just what some people will find to complain about

Olinda99

baser999 said:

Agree with @ Baron_Dale. Beggars belief at times just what some people will find to complain about

ok so there's this raffle. First prize is a gold bar, second price a tin of toffees third price is a mars bar then various other prizes of a quality Street chocolate etc

I sell tickets and then withdraw the gold bar and sell it separately....

Aylesbury_Duck

Olinda99 said:

baser999 said:

Agree with @ Baron_Dale. Beggars belief at times just what some people will find to complain about

ok so there's this raffle. First prize is a gold bar, second price a tin of toffees third price is a mars bar then various other prizes of a quality Street chocolate etc

I sell tickets and then withdraw the gold bar and sell it separately....

...then you await someone to challenge you.  If they do, and if they win, you have to refund the tickets sold.  But that's OK, because you'll have the proceeds from selling the gold bar and a load of sweets to enjoy.  None of the punters has lost anything, and neither have you, other than some court fees and administrative hassle. What's the problem?

Pollycat

Olinda99 said:

baser999 said:

Agree with @ Baron_Dale. Beggars belief at times just what some people will find to complain about

ok so there's this raffle. First prize is a gold bar, second price a tin of toffees third price is a mars bar then various other prizes of a quality Street chocolate etc

I sell tickets and then withdraw the gold bar and sell it separately....

That's not a true analogy of this specific situation:

swingaloo said:

user1977 said:

swingaloo said:

Me personally, no. However one of the ladies who work in the shop is up in arms about the item being sold and is banding the word 'Fraud' around saying that some people will only have ought tickets because they hoped to win that particular prize.

So what is she planning to do about it? Fraud is a criminal offence, so clearly the fraud squad need to get involved...

(how much are the prizes worth?)

Probably between a tenner and twenty pounds each.

There is a vast difference between the value of a gold bar and a tin of toffees.

user1977

Pollycat said:

Olinda99 said:

baser999 said:

Agree with @ Baron_Dale. Beggars belief at times just what some people will find to complain about

ok so there's this raffle. First prize is a gold bar, second price a tin of toffees third price is a mars bar then various other prizes of a quality Street chocolate etc

I sell tickets and then withdraw the gold bar and sell it separately....

That's not a true analogy of this specific situation:

swingaloo said:

user1977 said:

swingaloo said:

Me personally, no. However one of the ladies who work in the shop is up in arms about the item being sold and is banding the word 'Fraud' around saying that some people will only have ought tickets because they hoped to win that particular prize.

So what is she planning to do about it? Fraud is a criminal offence, so clearly the fraud squad need to get involved...

(how much are the prizes worth?)

Probably between a tenner and twenty pounds each.

There is a vast difference between the value of a gold bar and a tin of toffees.

Depends on the sizes of the bar and the tin...(did nobody check the smallprint?).