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PCN received more than 14 days after parking date

Nijinsky
Nijinsky Posts: 77 Forumite
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edited 14 November 2023 at 11:45PM in Parking tickets, fines & parking
My partner had a PCN from Smart Parking. The parking date was 13/08/2023 and the date issued was 12/09/2023, 30 days after the parking date.

No PCN notice was issued on the windscreen at the time and the PCN letter was only posted to her house last Tuesday (07/11/2023), so I think Smart Parking are lying about the date of issue being on 12/09/2023.

Please can you experts confirm if any PCN is issued over 14 days after the parking date, it's no longer valid so it's unenforceable? That's what Citizens Advice are saying within their "you got a parking charge notice 14 days after parking" section on their website.
https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/parking-tickets/appealing-parking-tickets/when-to-appeal-a-parking-ticket/#!

My partner legally paid for her ticket, but she paid by cash. She cleaned her car out a few weeks ago and threw her ticket away thinking everything was alright, then she unexpectedly received her PCN letter on 07/11/2023; suspiciously almost 2 months after Smart Parking's supposed date of issue and nearly 3 months after the date she parked.

I have uploaded the letter on the following links:

Page 1 - https://i.gyazo.com/9aaeb36d60bc2de74c6cd36ef379de54.png

Page 2 - https://i.gyazo.com/d37e279ff0fe5416db420071883e3443.png

Any advice/opinions would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks,

Nijinsky

Comments

  • KeithP
    KeithP Posts: 41,218 Forumite
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    Nijinsky said:
    Please can you experts confirm if any PCN is issued over 14 days after the parking date, it's no longer valid so it's unenforceable?
    That simply is not true.

    The DVLA allows a parking company up to six months to get keeper's details from them.
    Their trade association allows the parking company another month to get a Notice to Keeper to the keeper. 

    However, if they want to hold the keeper liable for something the driver may have done then the timescales are much shorter.
  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 14 November 2023 at 11:15PM
    Don't read that CAB utter codswallop!  Of course Smart can issue a PCN after 14 days.

    But they can't win at appeal if the keeper doesn't say or imply who was driving. So it is a cinch to win!

    Just do what other Smart easy appeal threads show you. There's one with replies on it this afternoon so you don't even need to do a forum search (although you could, using those words I put in bold).

    Just look down today's thread lists. Dead easy.

    Here are your images with the stuff on the top right and pics of the car redacted:


    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • KeithP
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    I see in your opening post that you have disclosed the driver's identity.
    The words 'my partner', together with 'the date she parked' are pretty damning when coupled with the images you have shown us that show the vehicle's registration mark and the PCN number.
  • KeithP said:
    I see in your opening post that you have disclosed the driver's identity.
    The words 'my partner', together with 'the date she parked' are pretty damning when coupled with the images you have shown us that show the vehicle's registration mark and the PCN number.
    Thanks for pointing that out, I missed out hiding the registration on the right but I have edited the image to hide everything else now.
  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 147,891 Forumite
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    You no longer need the links as I've redacted your images and told you how to win.  :)
    PRIVATE 'PCN'? DON'T PAY BUT DON'T IGNORE IT (except N.Ireland).
    CLICK at the top or bottom of any page where it says:
    Home»Motoring»Parking Tickets Fines & Parking - read the NEWBIES THREAD
  • Don't read that CAB utter codswallop!  Of course Smart can issue a PCN after 14 days.

    But they can't win at appeal if the keeper doesn't say or imply who was driving. So it is a cinch to win!

    Just do what other Smart easy appeal threads show you. There's one with replies on it this afternoon so you don't even need to do a forum search (although you could, using those words I put in bold).

    Just look down today's thread lists. Dead easy.

    Here are your images with the stuff on the top right and pics of the car redacted:


    Thanks for your helpful response. I will have a look at the other smart easy appeal threads.

    I remember you helping me out with a successful defence a couple of years ago. I appreciate your time and help.
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